Historic District Minutes 9-20-18
Historic District Commission. 20 de septiembre de 2018.
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CITY OF DOVER
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
September 20, 2018
The Regular Meeting of the City of Dover Historic District Commission was held on Thursday,
September 20, 2018 at 3:00 PM with Chairman McDaniel presiding. Members present were Mr.
Czerwinski, Mr. Street, Ms. Horsey, Chairman McDaniel and Ms. Mason.
Planning Office Staff members present were Mrs. Melson-Williams and Mr. Julian Swierczek.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Ms. Mason moved for approval of the agenda, seconded by Ms. Horsey and the motion was
unanimously carried 5-0.
ADOPTION OF MINUTES OF THE REGULAR HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
MEETING OF AUGUST 16, 2018
Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that the meeting minutes of August 16, 2018 are still being prepared
and will be approved at the October 18, 2018 meeting.
COMMUNICATIONS & REPORTS
Summary of Applications for 2017 and 2018
Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that the architect working on the Governor’s Café Kitchen Addition
has been working with the City’s Fire Marshal Office and the Building Inspector to sort out
some things related to what will be their Building Permit submission. For 2018, the Murphey
School Accessory Structure Demolition at 12 Kings Highway NE is complete. The referral of the
Fence Permit at 401 South Governors Avenue that was approved based on the discussion at the
meeting, but she does not believe the Permit have been issued so she is not aware of the status at
the current time. It was a potential new business at that location.
Summary of Architectural Review Certifications for 2018
Mrs. Melson-Williams stated with the Architectural Review Certifications there were 28 Permits
through August 31, 2018 in the Historic District. There were nine (9) related to interior work, eight
(8) building exterior, five (5) Roof Permits, five (5) signs/temporary signs, and one (1) other
permit.
Chairman McDaniel asked about the work being done at the LaBaguette Bakery? Mrs. Melson-
Williams replied there was a Fence Permit. They are creating an outdoor patio space on one side
of the building.
Chairman McDaniel asked about the location of 535 South State Street. Mrs. Melson-Williams
replied that is the blue house on the southeast corner at the entrance to Elm Terrace.
Chairman McDaniel asked how far down the Historic District runs. Mrs. Melson-Williams replied
on that side that may be the last house.
Chairman McDaniel asked if Scull Mansion was in the Historic District? Mrs. Melson-Williams
replied Scull Mansion is not in the Historic District but is listed on the National Register of Historic
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Places.
Department of Planning & Inspections Update
Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that Staff have been working on the Comprehensive Plan. Included
in each member’s packet was a copy of a flyer that the State’s Division of Historical and Cultural
Affairs put listing events related to the Lenape Heritage Celebration which is the recognized Indian
tribe in Delaware. There are still some events left. She also handed out information regarding the
“Last Saturday Talk Series” that is being sponsored by the Friends of Old Dover and the next event
“The Stately Homes of State Street” will be held on September 29, 2018.
Ms. Mason mentioned that there will be two (2) talk series.
Mr. Street asked if the talks would entail history. Ms. Mason replied it will talk about forgotten
buildings.
Chairman McDaniel asked about the one-year extension on Loockerman Way. Mrs. Melson-
Williams replied that the Loockerman Way project was just at the Planning Commission and they
received a one-year extension. Their project was due to expire at the end of September.
Mr. Street asked if the project had to come back before the Historic District Commission? Mrs.
Melson-Williams replied yes if there are significant changes in their project.
Mr. Street asked about the process if the Planning Commission approval expires. Mrs. Melson-
Williams replied if they do not finalize their plan and start construction before the end of next
September then it would have to go back through a review process as a new application which
could mean another appearance before the Historic District Commission and Planning
Commission.
NEW BUSINESS
Certified Local Government (CLG) Program
Update on Submission of FFY2018 CLG Grant Application
Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that the grant application is related to preparation of the Historic
Preservation Chapter of the Comprehensive Plan. Staff continues to work on it, but we still do
not have a Grant Agreement in hand. With the CLG Program, the grant typically runs from July
through June.
Project for Dover’s 2019 Comprehensive Plan
a) Update on Open House Event and Project Activities
b) Information on “Partners in Preservation: Planning for the Future” - Delaware’s
Historic Preservation Plan 2018-2022
c) Continued Discussion of Historic Preservation Chapter
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Update on Open House Event and Project Activities
Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that the Planning Office hosted an Open House Event on August
23, 2018 at the Library from 3pm-7pm. Some of the Historic District Commission members were
present. There were a number of different boards and panels with hands-on activities for people
to participate in. There was a display of the Historic District boundary and it captured some
comments. There was an activity that defined six (6) focus areas throughout the City shown on
an aerial map. Downtown Dover was one of the focus areas as well as the Division Street
corridor. The other comment sheets were available during the event. There was a formal
presentation where Planning Staff did a PowerPoint presentation about what is a Comprehensive
Plan, the process, and reported on the questionnaire survey that was conducted in late June and
July. Some of that data was provided to the audience. There was also a rolling presentation of the
summary from the survey. Both the formal and rolling PowerPoint are posted on the City’s
website. Also, presented at that meeting was the first Preliminary Draft of the Land Development
Plan map where we have to look citywide and identify the land use categories for all properties.
Land use categories then translate into what are appropriate zoning districts in those areas. There
are certain segments of the City where we are looking at potentially changing the land use
designation which in the future could mean rezoning or requests for rezoning in those areas.
Those initial Preliminary Drafts are also available on the City’s Comprehensive Plan website.
Planning Staff continues to work with a number of stakeholders, State agencies and City
departments to gather data related to them writing chapters of the Comprehensive Plan. The
Housing and the Economic Development chapters are probably the furthest along at this point
but the real focus in the next few weeks is the Goals and Recommendations of the chapters. The
Comprehensive Plan is supposed to be completed by February 2019 but due to scheduling and
the regulatory process Planning Staff have made a request for an extension that was submitted on
September 19, 2018. The goal is to have a Draft of the Comprehensive Plan around the October
or November timeframe and then start the formal review process with PLUS which is a State
review process and then with Planning Commission and City Council. They must ultimately
conduct hearings on the document. There will probably be another opportunity in the next couple
of months for more public outreach as we get formal draft items in place.
Chairman McDaniel asked how Staff felt about the attendance at the Open House. Mrs. Melson-
Williams replied that the Open House was good. There were 65 people who signed in but
certainly there were more who did not sign in. A lot of information was gathered at the Open
House. There were a number of ideas and concerns regarding the Downtown were about vacant
buildings, bringing other business types Downtown, technology aspects such as Wi-Fi/Internet
Café, the special character of Downtown Dover and the Historic area.
Chairman McDaniel asked who some of the stakeholders were. Mrs. Melson-Williams replied
some of the universities through the Economic Development Chapter, the City’s Economic
Development Committee, DNREC, DelDOT, Kent County MPO, and most of the City
Departments.
Chairman McDaniel asked why cities have to do Comprehensive Plans and if it goes with the
CLG. Mrs. Melson-Williams replied no they do not go with the CLG. The requirement for a
Comprehensive Plan is part of Delaware Code; so it is a State requirement. Every municipality is
required to have one. What is required in your Comprehensive Plan depends on the population.
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There is a less obligation on those municipalities that are lesser than 2,000 persons. There is a
whole checklist of items that must be included in the Comprehensive Plan.
Chairman McDaniel asked about the County. Mrs. Melson-Williams replied the County also has
a requirement for a Comprehensive Plan. Last week Kent County adopted their Comprehensive
Plan after also working in-house on it for probably 2-years.
Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that since the County just adopted the Comprehensive Plan they
have had some informal conversations with them about things that are close to the City and near
the City. Staff is also looking at that document.
Ms. Mason asked if anyone was talking with Mr. Bob Clark at Wesley College. Previously, he
had this great vision of connecting Wesley with Downtown and getting the students involved.
Mrs. Melson-Williams replied that she did not know if Staff has spoken to him directly but the
concept of the connection between Wesley and Downtown has been a wishful thought for a
number of years in studies. She was not sure how it was discussed in the last Comprehensive
Plan from 2008 but it is certainly on the radar screen. Next week our Staff will be going to one of
Wesley’s graduate student classes that is about land use planning that is being taught by Mr.
Tony DePrima. Staff will use this as an opportunity to talk with some college students. Some of
the students that are a part of his class came to the Open House as further learning experience.
Information on “Partners in Preservation: Planning for the Future” – Delaware’s Historic
Preservation Plan 2018-2022
Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that the State has completed their State Historic Preservation Plan.
The complete document is available on-line. In Chapter 7 of their document (their goals,
strategies and actions section) is something Staff needs to look closely at to see if there are things
they should capture in their Comprehensive Plan. Chapter 7 was also provided in each packet for
the members of the Historic District Commission. The State starts with a series of six (6) over-
arching goals and under each of those goals are strategies and actions. They also go to the next
step of suggesting partners. Their Plan is all about Historic Preservation Planning which is
achieved by a series of partnerships between government agencies, non-profits, citizens and
others. It specifically suggests partners of CLGs and local governments. A lot of their goals and
strategies are very similar to what we see in our Comprehensive Plan such as working with the
City Government in a link that includes and relates to communication and outreach such as
brochures or events. There are a number of things about National Register listed properties.
They make the link between preservation that is related to the whole Downtown Development
District program and the Main Street programs. The Downtown Dover Partnership is the main
body that participates in the Main Street program. It also mentions to make sure the
Comprehensive Plan has information about historic preservation. The State Code requires Dover
to have Historic Preservation as part of their Comprehensive Plan because of our size. It also
mentions the Delaware By-Ways program. This is an area that also needs to be incorporated in
our plan. It also talks about the CHRIS (Cultural Historic Resource Inventory System) which is
the electronic system of all their survey records and how they plan to improve the system and
encourage others to use it.
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Mr. Czerwinski mentioned that he was familiar with the Cultural Historic Resource Inventory
System.
Ms. Mason asked if there were other computer related items such as CHRIS and if this was
available on-line. Mrs. Melson-Williams replied that at the beginning of their plan there is an
acronym sheet.
Mr. Czerwinski asked if SHPO has ever reached out to the Historic District Commission to do a
briefing, outreach program or seminar. We have great ideas, but some of the stuff never happens.
Mrs. Melson-Williams replied that off and on the Historic District Commission has had some
small presentations and training opportunities. Years ago, there used to be a state-wide Historic
Preservation Conference. That is one of the things noted that with partnerships they hope to do
again. At the time, years ago, Preservation Delaware which is the statewide non-profit for
Historic Preservation was much more active than it has been. They have one of their annual
meetings coming up in the next few weeks. A lot of their actions do talk about the outreach to
understand what they do. People are more of the grassroots local level where things happen.
There has been specific training for Historic District Commissions. Some Commissions that have
been CLGs have used their grant monies for training purposes. There was a couple of years that
the town of Lewes and their CLG sponsored a couple of different workshop series. Chairman
McDaniel mentioned that he along with other members attended that workshop in Lewes.
Mr. Czerwinski suggested having trend information and upcoming programs, etc. He feels they
can do more outreach. He has been with the Commission for a year and he has not seen any
outreach. The local level is the most important because this is where things happen. He was
surprised that there has not been more outreach by the State. If they want to improve their
services, the key would be to engage with the Historic District Commission.
Chairman McDaniel mentioned they have had the information and programs such as the Mock
Historic District Commission meeting which was good.
Mrs. Melson-Williams mentioned that one of things with the development of this plan, they (the
State) had a Working Group of people from various levels (a sounding board) to develop the
plan. One of the things going forward from this plan is the Working Group plus some other
people are going to continue to meet (an annual kind of work plan). The meeting is scheduled
two weeks from now and she has been invited. She was not part of the Working Group that
developed the initial document. She will certainly relay the Commission’s ideas. This plan
clearly recognizes that outreach is the way to achieve things.
Mr. Czerwinski asked if the plan had already been approved. Mrs. Melson-Williams replied it
has been approved by the State Review Board for Historic Preservation and it has National Park
Service approval. It also had some submission to the State Planning Office and the Governor, as
more of a hand off their 5-year goals.
Mr. Czerwinski mentioned that he would like to see the last one. Mrs. Melson-Williams replied
that the last one was not as long of a document. One of the Appendices talks about the
achievements of the goals from the last one. She suggested that Mr. Czerwinski look at that one.
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Mr. Czerwinski asked when was the last one (for the State) was completed. Mrs. Melson-
Williams replied most likely in 2013-2017.
Ms. Horsey mentioned that just knowing the inside scoop on this she knew that their Graphic
Designer in the Museum section put it together and included pictures that could be downloaded
in color and that was interesting. Mrs. Melson-Williams also mentioned that it was a landscape
document.
Continued Discussion of Historic Preservation Chapter
Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that included in the packet were the goals.
Mr. Czerwinski asked if there was an office of POCs for responsibilities. For example, such as
identified areas of study, properties for potential future Historic District designation and
individual structures. Who is the primary responsible office? Mrs. Melson-Williams replied that
our plan is not set up to say who is necessarily supposed to do it throughout the whole
Comprehensive Plan. There is a chapter that talks about implementation. If there is clearly an
initiative that this group would like to focus on in a calendar year scenario such as the key items
that they would like to work on this year, it will prioritize Staff. Like if there are things that we
should be seeking consulting help on or grant assistance. Most of them would have a mix of the
same group of people: whereas, you could have citizens, Historic District Commission, Planning
Department, having to work with another City Department, CLG, etc. bringing forth property
information. With any Annexation application it comes through the Planning Office and goes
through the Planning Commission and then to City Council. The Planning Office in developing
the background report on the Annexation as to what is the property, what is there, present
zoning, proposed zoning, etc. could identify if it received the National Registry listing of a
property.
Mrs. Melson-Williams mentioned that at this point Staff will be going through the State Plan to
capture information that specifically points to the CLG’s to see if we already have something
that is similar that has already been identified as potential action items for us. We have a lot of
outreach. We are suggesting recommendations, goals, and action items.
Mr. Street moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Ms. Mason and unanimously carried 5-0.
Meeting adjourned at 3:52 PM
Sincerely,
Maretta Savage-Purnell
Secretary
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