PC Minutes 4-19-21

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 The Meeting of the City of Dover Planning Commission was held on Monday, April 19, 2021 at 7:00 PM as a Virtual Meeting using the phone/videoconferencing system WebEx due to Delaware’s Declaration of the State of Emergency for COVID-19. The Meeting Session was conducted with Chair Mrs. Maucher presiding. Members present were Mr. Adams, Mr. Roach, Mrs. Malone, Mr. Hartman, Mr. Baldwin, Mrs. Lord, Mrs. Welsh and Mrs. Maucher. Dr. Jones was absent. Staff members present were Mr. Dave Hugg, Mrs. Dawn Melson-Williams, Mr. Julian Swierczek, Mrs. Tracey Harvey, Mr. Jason Lyon and Mrs. Kristen Mullaney. Also present were Mr. James Taylor, Ms. Shawanda Johnson, Mr. Jeff Spiegelman, Mr. Tolano Anderson, Mr. Troy Adams, Mr. Mike Metzing, Mr. Gregg Moore, Mr. Jonathan Street, and Mr. John Van Gorp. Speaking from the public were Ms. Mary Mason, Mr. Richard Kosior, Mr. James Dinkuhn, Ms. Ellen Richardson, Mr. Nathan Attard and Ms. Ann Horsey. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Mrs. Welsh moved to approve the Agenda tonight, seconded by Mr. Adams and the motion was unanimously carried 8-0 with Dr. Jones absent. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES OF MARCH 15, 2021 Mrs. Welsh moved to approve the Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of March 15, 2021, seconded by Mr. Adams and the motion was unanimously carried 8-0 with Dr. Jones absent. COMMUNICATIONS & REPORTS Mr. Hugg stated that the next Planning Commission regular meeting is scheduled for Monday, May 17, 2021 at 5:30PM. We have a number of agenda items that have to be addressed including the Comprehensive Rezoning Project and the Comprehensive Plan Amendments Set #2 so we are asking the Planning Commission to meet early in order to have enough time to deal with all of those items. Mr. Hugg provided an update on the regular City Council and various Committee meetings held on March 22 & 23, 2021 and April 12 & 13, 2021. Mr. Hugg stated that in tonight’s packet there is a notice of a “Real Estate Trends of a Pandemic” Class and how that has changed in Delaware as a result of the Pandemic. It is being offered by the Institute for Public Administration on April 23, 2021 from 10AM-Noon. If any of the members of the Commission are interested, please let Staff know. Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that Mrs. Bulkilvish and her husband are the proud parents of a new baby girl that arrived on April 7th. Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that an item that was in tonight’s packet was related to the implementation of the 2019 Comprehensive Plan. There were a series of maps in our Comprehensive Plan that needed to be updated following the adoption of two of the three 1

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 Comprehensive Plan Amendment Requests that we had back in February that City Council acted on in March. The Land Development Plan: Map 12-1 was updated which shows the land use classifications for all City properties; it’s kind of the full view map. The other map that was subsequently updated was Map 12-1A. One of the properties being updated was located on that map and then Map 12-1C had the other location where that map change was approved. Those copies are for the Commissioner’s Comprehensive Plan Books that were previously distributed. You can always find these maps on the City’s website under the Planning Office page. We have a specific page setup for the Comprehensive Plan. Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that the other item under Educational Opportunities, Mr. Hugg mentioned the upcoming IPA training session opportunity. If you are interested in participating, please reach out to Planning Staff. This one does have a registration fee and it will be a virtual event via Zoom but Staff has to get Commissioners registered. OPENING REMARKS CONCERNING DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS Mrs. Melson-Williams presented the audience information on policies and procedures for the Virtual Meeting using the WebEx system. OLD BUSINESS 1) Requests for Extensions of Planning Commission Approval: S-19-07 - Retail Facility at 515 South DuPont Highway – Request for 1-year Extension of Plan Approval granted by the Planning Commission in April 2019 for a Site Development Plan Application to permit construction of a one-story 8,050 SF retail building and accompanying site improvements. The site is currently vacant. The subject area is 0.91 +/-acres located on the east side of South DuPont Highway south of Cowgill Street and north of Public Safety Boulevard. The property is zoned C-4 (Highway Commercial Zone). The owner of record is Kent Del Properties, LLC. Property Address: 515 South DuPont Highway. Tax Parcel: ED-05-077.00-01- 12.00-000. Council District 2. Representative: Mr. James Taylor, Duffield & Associates Mr. Swierczek stated that on the screen there is an architectural rendering of the facility that was submitted to the Planning Commission back in April 2019. As noted, this is a retail facility slightly over 8,000 SF and it is one-story. There have not been any tenants identified as of yet but the applicants have come before the Planning Commission requesting the one year extension of approval noting that they are still actively going through the review process with the various agencies. They are very much eager to see this project through to the end. Mr. Taylor stated that they are seeking a one-year extension of the approval that was granted in April 2019. All of the Site Plan approvals have been approved at this point. The owner is going through the Building Permit process and is looking to get started on construction within the next month or so as those approvals get straightened out. 2

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 Mr. Adams moved to approve S-19-07 Retail Facility at 515 South DuPont Highway for a one year extension, seconded by Mrs. Welsh and the motion was carried 8-0 by roll call vote with Dr. Jones absent. Mr. Adams voting yes; it sounds like this is moving forward so we will afford the applicant some more time. Mr. Roach voting yes; for reasons previously stated. Mrs. Malone voting yes; for reasons stated. Mr. Hartman voting yes; based on the applicant’s progress. Mr. Baldwin voting yes; for reasons previously stated. Mrs. Lord voting yes; for reasons previously stated. Mrs. Welsh voting yes; based on the information provided in the applicant’s letter and it looks like they are doing a good job of using a vacant site. Mrs. Maucher voting yes; based on reasons previously stated. 2) Pending Development Application: C-21-02 JJ’s Learning Experience 2 Child Day Care Center at 756 South Little Creek Road – Continued Review for an Application for a Conditional Use to permit renovation of a 10,111 SF space in an existing one-story 33,143 SF building into a Child Day Care Center to serve 170 children. The property consists of a 2.39 acre+/- parcel and is located on the south side of South Little Creek Road opposite Babb Drive. The property is zoned C-4 (Highway Commercial Zone). The owner of record is Empire Medical, LLC and the applicant is JJ’s Learning Experience 2. Location Address: 756 South Little Creek Road Suite 1. Tax Parcel: ED-05- 077.00-01-03.00-000. Council District 2. This Application had originally been submitted for Review by the Planning Commission at their March 2021 meeting; however, Action was deferred pending further information being provided by the Applicant. Representatives: Ms. Shawanda Johnson, JJ’s Learning Experience; Mr. Jeff Spiegelman, Real Estate representative Mrs. Welsh moved to continue the review of C-21-02 JJ’s Learning Experience 2 Child Day Care Center at 756 South Little Creek Road, seconded by Mr. Hartman and the motion was carried 8-0 by roll call vote with Dr. Jones absent. Mrs. Welsh voting yes; due to the fact that this is the proper procedure with continuing on with this application. Mr. Adams voting yes. Mr. Roach voting yes. Mrs. Malone voting yes. Mr. Hartman voting yes. Mr. Baldwin voting yes. Mrs. Lord voting yes. Mrs. Maucher voting yes. Mrs. Harvey stated that at the Planning Commission Meeting of March 15, 2021, the Planning Commission moved to defer action on Conditional Use Site Plan C-21-02 for thirty days until or until the next Planning Commission meeting. This postponement was to allow the applicant to review and formalize areas of the plan related to safety concerns of the children that would be attending this day care center. As part of the motion, the Planning Commission noted issues involving the lighting, traffic flow, and children’s access to the playground. The applicant has submitted revisions to the Conditional Use Site Plan that address the concerns of the Planning Commission. The key revisions to the proposed plan consist of the following. Two new pole mounted LED lights are shown on the plan to illuminate the east parking lot. The location of the dumpster has been repositioned on the plan to ensure the safety of the children. A pedestrian crosswalk and a pedestrian caution sign are shown on the plan to ensure safe access to the building. A handicapped parking space has also been added to the parking lot on the east side of the building. A bicycle rack has been added near the entrance that is on the east side of the 3

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 building and access for an outdoor play area shows access directly from the building to the fenced-in play area. There are two doors on the south elevation of the building that open to a sidewalk area and lead to the fenced-in play area. Ms. Johnson stated that she does not have any other supplemental information at this time. Mrs. Welsh moved to approve C-21-02 JJ’s Learning Experience 2 Child Day Care Center at 756 South Little Creek Road based on the Revised Plans that have been submitted and to include the Memo (on the Revise Plan) and DAC Report, seconded by Mrs. Malone and the motion was carried 8-0 by roll call vote with Dr. Jones absent. Mrs. Welsh voting yes; the additional information provided tonight addresses the issues that were open from the last meeting and it seems like the applicant is working hard to make a success of this project. Mr. Adams voting yes. Mr. Roach voting yes; he appreciates all of the hard work done to address the Commission’s concerns from the last meeting. Mrs. Malone voting yes; based on the reasons stated and also knowing that she will be required to be licensed through the State of Delaware so they will put her through some rigorous things also. She is looking forward to seeing this project succeed. Mr. Hartman voting yes; based on the Memo submitted to the Commission dated April 8, 2021 and he also wishes to thank the applicant for doing the hard work that is outlined in that Memo. Mr. Baldwin voting yes; he wants to thank the applicants for addressing the issues that the Commission had at the last meeting. Mrs. Lord voting yes; for reasons previously stated. Mrs. Maucher voting yes; based on the Staff Memo and the DAC comments heard previously. NEW APPLICATIONS Z-21-03 Lands of Silver Linings Holdings Corporation at 630 West Division Street – Public Hearing and Review for Recommendation to City Council on a rezoning application for a parcel of land consisting of 1.0853 acres (47,275.3 SF +/-). The properties are zoned C-3 (Service Commercial Zone) subject to the COZ-1 (Corridor Overlay Zone). The proposed zoning is C-2A (Limited Central Commercial Zone) subject to the COZ-1 (Corridor Overlay Zone). The property is located on the south side of West Division Street and opposite the intersection with Ridgely Street. The owner of record is Silver Linings Holding Corporation c/o Tolano Anderson. Property Address: 630 W. Division Street. Tax Parcel: ED-05-076.08-01-40.01-000. Council District 4. Ordinance #2021-07. This property was the subject of Rezoning Application Z-20-03 that was unsuccessful in its rezoning request for IO (Institutional and Office Zone) with COZ-1 in November-December 2020. Representatives: Mr. Tolano Anderson, Owner; Mr. Troy Adams, Mountain Consulting Mr. Swierczek stated that this application is a Rezoning for 630 West Division Street. The property is currently zoned C-3 (Service Commercial Zone) and is subject to the COZ-1 (Corridor Overlay Zone). The proposed zoning is to take the property to C-2A (Limited Central Commercial Zone) but also remaining subject to the COZ-1 (Corridor Overlay Zone). As a side note, the COZ-1 (Corridor Overlay Zone) is usually an added provision of the Zoning Ordinance that requires some added stipulations for sort of physical appearances, but those pertain to primarily new developments so that won’t necessarily apply to this. This Application is specifically for Rezoning. There is no redevelopment of the property or any other type of change 4

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 of use specific to this Application; that would be part of a later review process. As a reminder to the members of the Planning Commission, this property did come before Planning Commission in November 2020 to take the property from C-3 (Service Commercial Zone) to IO (Institutional and Office Zone) that would allow for a shelter use. This Rezoning to C-2A (Limited Central Commercial Zone) was specifically cited to allow the use of apartments to be established in addition to the existing use of professional office space. As an added note, the C-2A (Limited Central Commercial Zone) does not allow for a shelter use. There is no specific re-development associated with this application; this is only reviewing the Rezoning. Mr. Tolano Anderson stated that he would like to point out that yes, they were before the Commission last year; however, that Rezoning for IO (Institutional and Office Zone) was not successful. They recognize that there is a shortage of affordable housing in Dover and particularly in this area; so, they are looking at a 20,000 SF building that is highly under-utilized. They are excited about the opportunity to create some affordable housing there as well as continuing the office use that is there. It is a great location for a mixed use, and it is all permitted. So, we are submitting this application to the Development Advisory Committee as well as the Planning Staff and Planning Commission for the C-2A (Limited Central Commercial Zone). We just ask for your support and thank you. Mr. Hartman stated that he supports this application and thinks it should be recommended to City Council for approval, but he would just like to ask Mr. Tolano Anderson if he intends on having families live there and to look at the requirements of the COZ-1 (Corridor Overlay Zone). Even though they may not be legally required, try to think of yourself as living there because that is a fairly stark area. He just requests that they take any families who move in there into consideration. Responding to Mr. Hartman, Mr. Tolano Anderson stated that he would certainly take that into consideration. They are looking at all of the requirements of the COZ-1 (Corridor Overlay Zone) as well as some other things that we think would be good for the environment that would not even be required by the COZ-1 (Corridor Overlay Zone) just so that this housing would be good for families and for those who desire to rent there. Mrs. Maucher opened the public hearing Mary T. Mason - 36 The Green Dover, DE 19901 (Call-in User #6): Ms. Mason commented that she agrees with it and that it’s a good idea. Mrs. Maucher after seeing no one else wishing to speak, closed the public hearing. Mr. Hartman moved to recommend approval to City Council for Application Z-21-02 Lands of Silver Linings Holdings Corporation at 630 West Division Street based on the submittal and the fact that it is consistent with the Land Use area, seconded by Mrs. Welsh and the motion was carried 8-0 by roll call vote. Mr. Hartman voting yes. Mr. Baldwin voting yes. Mrs. Lord voting yes. Mrs. Welsh voting yes; for reasons stated. Mr. Adams voting yes. Mr. Roach voting yes; he hopes that this Rezoning will allow the space to be utilized in the manner that it was presented to us to provide housing for a much needed situation in Dover. Mrs. Malone voting yes; for reasons stated. Mrs. Maucher voting yes; based on Staff recommendations and she looks forward to a Site Plan Review. 5

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 S-20-10 Bayhealth Staff Parking Lot Expansion at Scull Property (Revision of March 25, 2021) - Public Hearing and Review of a proposed Site Development Master Plan Application to permit construction of 453 new parking spaces over the course of three phases for the Bayhealth Medical Center Campus. This expands the existing parking from 227 spaces to a total of 680 parking spaces on the Scull Property. Phase 1 proposes 251 new parking spaces; Phase 2 proposes 72 new parking spaces; and Phase 3 proposes an additional 91 parking spaces and a connection to S. State Street at the South Street intersection. The Plan shows the demolition of existing buildings in each phase for a total of seven (7) buildings demolished including the Scull Mansion to accommodate the increased volume of parking. The Revision offers a proposal related to the Scull Mansion. The properties measure 11.43 acres +/- and are located on the east side of S. State Street in the block between South Street and Scull Terrace. The properties are zoned IO (Institutional and Office Zone) and subject to the SWPOZ (Source Water Protection Overlay Zone). The owners of record are Bayhealth Medical Center, Inc. and KGH Development Corp. The parcels are proposed to be consolidated before the project begins. Property Addresses: 605 S. State Street, 625 S. State Street, 100 Scull Terrace, and 150 Scull Terrace. Tax Parcel Numbers: ED-05-077.13-01-49.00-000 and ED-05-077.13-01-51.00-000. Council District 2. Waiver Requests: Elimination of Upright Curbing and the Elimination/Relocation of Bicycle Parking. This Application was withdrawn by the applicant from the October 2020 Meeting of the Planning Commission. A Revision submission dated March 25, 2021 has been received for review. Representatives: Mr. Mike Metzing, Bayhealth; Mr. Gregg Moore, Becker Morgan Group; Mr. Jonathan Street, Becker Morgan Group; Mr. John Van Gorp, Bayhealth Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that this application for the project known as the Bayhealth Staff Parking Lot Expansion at the Scull property which involves the parcels at 605 South State Street, 625 South Street and 100 Scull Terrace. This was originally to be heard by the Planning Commission in October 2020; however, at that time the applicant requested to defer the public hearing and consideration of that application. In the intervening months, they have held a number of meetings and most recently provided a revised submission dated March 25, 2021 that changed the proposal for what would occur in Phase 1 of the project. This is for a Site Development Master Plan which allows the Planning Commission to look at a concept in phases for a project; but in order to commence any individual phase following an approval of a Master Plan, the applicant is required to submit an Administrative Site Plan for review by Planning Staff and the technical review agencies before construction can commence. What is shown on the screen is their Phase 1 Revised. It is a demolition of an existing building known as the Gates Building which is on the property. It is the kind of a brick Cape Cod building that’s to the north. There is a variety of maintenance and accessory buildings that are also proposed for demolition in Phase 1. Phase 1 per their March revision, retains the Scull Mansion building for a period of 18 months and then the key part of the Phase 1 is the construction of just over 250 parking spaces. These are an expansion of the parking to the north and surrounding the mansion building. There is some existing parking in this area but this adds significantly more parking as you move to the north. Phase 2 of the Site Development Master Plan would demolish what is currently used as the Day Care Building. That is the property furthest to the east along Scull Terrace and then Phase 3 would demolish the Surgery Center Building that is kind of in the middle of the property and add 6

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 additional parking so ultimately a build out of parking on this site. There are a number of details about their submission that they outlined in the Letter that was attached in the packet describing their current proposal; and that is the Letter that is dated March 25, 2021. Going back to the review of the overall Master Plan, as she mentioned, it is a series of phases. There have been in the past, Master Plans and other development plans for the Bayhealth Complex overall here in Dover. Those were outlined in the DAC Report just for your reference. From a zoning perspective, the property is zoned IO (Institutional & Office Zone) and that includes those medical related buildings and associated parking. There is a portion of the property that falls within the SWPOZ (Source Water Protection Overlay Zone); however, because of the location in the Downtown Redevelopment Target Area, the property is not subject to what those SWPOZ (Source Water Protection Overlay Zone) requirements are. As mentioned before, we have a Site Development Master Plan. This is looking really at the conceptual plan. The much greater details and full compliance with the Zoning Ordinance on things such as stormwater management and landscaping would occur through the Administrative Site Plan review process. Regarding parking in the IO (Institutional & Office Zone), parking is typically based on either a floor area or an employee count scenario. This parking lot is meant to service the Bayhealth Campus so as part of this, they are looking to utilize the joint parking facility provisions of our Zoning Ordinance which allow for the required parking spaces to serve multiple establishments to be located kind of really in the general area of those establishments. That is further summarized in the Report that outlines the existing parking facilities for the Bayhealth Medical Center Campus in Dover. There are a variety of properties along State Street and then further to the west along Governors Avenue. There is a tally of the parking spaces that are also available for those general facilities. As part of this project, there typically is a requirement for bicycle parking related to establishment of any parking areas. This applicant is seeking a Waiver Request to reduce or relocate some of that bicycle parking on a campus-wide setting. They do note in their presentation package where the current locations of bicycle parking spaces are on the campus. Those are more likely found in what they deem as destination locations for the main buildings rather than at a proposal for parking in an area such as this. The second Waiver Request that they have is for the partial elimination of upright curbing. This would allow for the elimination of upright curb in areas that are related to stormwater management practices. In the case of this waiver, the City Planner can consider the request and those can be looked at in general at this point and then more specifically through Administrative Site Plan review process. This property does have a number of environmental related concerns that we do note. The property is adjacent to the St. Jones River. There are wetland areas where a setback for development is required and there are also portions that fall into the Special Flood Hazard Area meeting the 1% annual chance flood or a 100-year floodplain; however, their proposal for the development of the parking lot is not found in those areas. The project is required to have sidewalks along public street frontages and that is shown along South State Street. There is also several of what they would call the interconnection sidewalks that link from street frontage sidewalk and into the property. The parking lot areas are showing a format for handicapped parking facilities, lighting, the parking lot islands and some basic information about plans for landscaping for the overall project. One of the things that is perhaps unique that the Planning Commission has not had to really deal with before are the provisions related to scenic resources. The Zoning Ordinance in Article 5, Section 11.25 related to environmental protections notes some scenic resources. In this case, in addition to what you think of as natural vegetation areas, there is a specific area that is listed on the National Register of Historic Places and that is the Scull Mansion Building. It is not 7

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 within the City of Dover’s local Historic District Zone but it was listed on the National Register of Historic Places. There are provisions for requiring tree planting related to project activities. They will have to supply one tree per 3,000 SF of the development area. There are some wooded areas on the property where no activity is proposed. With this project, there is a third Waiver Request for elimination of the Opaque Barrier component. An Opaque Barrier is required when a non-residential use is adjacent to a residential use and that requires both a landscaping component as well as an Opaque Barrier in the form of either a fence, wall, or berm component. They are seeking relief from that Opaque Barrier component. The northern property line of the parcels involved here shares a common property line with the series of residences that are along Elm Terrace. So, it is along the north property line where we find the need for that Opaque Barrier requirement. The DAC Report includes the comments from the Planning Office as well as our other participating agencies including the Department of Public Works, the Department of Water and Wastewater, the Electric Department, the Office of the Fire Marshal and DelDOT. A couple of things that she wants to highlight for Commission members is in the DAC Report, there is the Section VIII which is “Recommendations Suggested as Conditions of Approval.” There you will find the Staff Recommendations regarding the three Waiver Requests. We are recommending approval of the partial elimination of curbing but note that it should be further evaluated during the Administrative Site Plan review process. For the relocation or elimination of bicycle parking, Staff is noting that they could consider the number of spaces and relocating some of them. But they do suggest that they continue to be made available in this area because there are existing buildings that will continue to be in this project site during the initial phases. Staff also recommends approval of the elimination of the Opaque Barrier component. That Opaque Barrier, implementation of a fence wall or berm, would likely have minimal impact because of the significant topography changes that occur on the northern portion of the site related to the land in that area. There is also an existing wooded area that can partially account for the required landscaping for those areas. The other comments that we have are concern with what are vehicular and pedestrian connections. This is a significant amount of parking that will likely serve something that is across South State Street in general. They recommend that there be a careful analysis of that intersection of Scull Terrace and South State Street to make sure the appropriate crossing and pedestrian elements are in place and that any impacts with the increased number of vehicles utilizing that intersection is appropriately accounted for in that area. We do need to make sure that there continues to be accessible routes because you are providing handicapped parking facilities and that they can reach their ultimate destination. In regards to the scenic resources consideration with the Scull Mansion being listed on the National Register of Historic Places, Planning Staff did make some recommendations to encourage consideration of making adaptive use of that building and retaining it in place. It noted some of the opportunities that may exist for things like tax credits. If in fact demolition is the ultimate result of the building, Staff does suggest that the information gathering that can be deemed from adequate recordation and documentation before the removal of the building. There are methods to do that and to consider any other mitigation should the building be demolished that can relate to information of its presence and previous existence on the landscape. In some places they have seen things such as informational waysides and other types of things too. They do note that there is extensive stormwater management just for this parking lot that would be necessary and there are also known drainage issues in the area near the intersection of South Street. Meeting House Branch, also known as the Tar Ditch, is a pipe situation. It outfalls along and through portions of this property in route to the St. Jones River. That is a known drainage issue that a number of 8

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 agencies have been involved in thinking about strategies for helping with. We do, on a landscape perspective, recommend that some shrub plantings be implemented along the western edge of the proposed parking lot to help mitigate the view of this from South State Street. This (landscaping) is very much the character of the area; there is a significant amount of trees and you are moving into the historic grid of the City. They think there is an opportunity for landscaping to try to maintain some of that character even though there is a parking lot behind it. For Planning Commission members, this is a Site Development Master Plan. We do have three Waivers for your consideration, those being the partial elimination of curbing which is something that Staff can issue, the elimination or relocation of bicycle parking, the elimination of the Opaque Barrier component and recognizing that they are utilizing the joint parking facilities provisions of the Zoning Ordinance. There is a number of information materials in addition to their plans that they submitted and she will refer to the other exhibit sets of public comments and correspondence as part of the public hearing on this application. Mr. Hartman stated that in Section VIII of the original DAC Report, the recommendation for the Waiver Request concerning the elimination of curbing specifically says that Staff grants approval of the Waiver Request. Was that a mistake? Does the Commission really need to consider this or is this approval already been granted? Responding to Mr. Hartman, Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that Staff has the ability to grant that Waiver Request. In the past, it has been something that the Planning Commission was the authority on. We tend to keep it in the Waiver Request seven though it is something that the Planning Staff can and in this case, has granted approval to. She thinks that their comments reserve the fact that the more detailed review will also occur with the Administrative Site Plan submission as drainage details are more better known and described. Mr. Moore stated that they have a brief presentation to go over to make sure everyone understands what they are proposing. They were actually scheduled to be before the Planning Commission for a hearing last Fall. They were hearing a number of different commentary from neighboring groups, the Friends of Old Dover and some of the people who live around the hospital so they decided to be good neighbors and table their application. The slide shown documents the five different sets of meetings that they had with a combination of the Friends of Old Dover. They have presentations, discussions and follow-up meetings and they had a separate meeting with the people who live on Elm Terrace who are directly adjacent to us as well as a meeting with Holy Cross Church and their building and grounds people to make sure that everybody understood the application and to listen to them as to the various issues that were raised and how they could modify their plans and work with the neighbors. There are a couple of letters from various groups. He knows that Holy Cross Church has provided a letter to the City supporting the plan. He thinks that there is a letter from the Friends of Old Dover also making support for the plan and acknowledging all of the meetings. Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that all of the correspondence and various letters have been provided to the Planning Commission as a series of exhibits. She will make reference to those during the public hearing process. Mr. Moore stated that they also met with City Staff, some City Council members and the City Manager so they were very complete in listening to the various constituents and they acted accordingly. The aerial slide shows the Kent Campus Hospital. You can see over South Street, 9

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 the bridge. Notice that there is a large parking lot next to the bridge and that is currently where Staff parks. You will see that the separation of the Scull property from the Historic District is on the adjacent edge but this property and the hospital property is not in the City’s Historic District. The blue area shows the location of the Scull property and notice that to its south is the full complex of the Holy Cross Church and School. He wants to note that the Holy Cross Church and School actually share the Scull Terrace entrance with the hospital. It is owned by the hospital, but they have granted rights of access to the Holy Cross Complex. They (Holy Cross) also have rights to the parking facilities that are on this property so this is actually a dual parking facility. In meetings that he held with the church, they are very covenant of parking because they need more. As a result, they are very supportive of the added parking that they will get to benefit from on this lot. The next slide shows Bayhealth Kent Campus on the left and Phase 4 which is the future tower that was approved years ago as a ten story tower. Right now it is about four stories and you can see the new main entrance to the hospital that was built a number of years ago. On the opposite side of South Street is the Tar Ditch infrastructure and the red line on the slide is actually a drainage pipe that drains about 1,000 acres of the City of Dover area that covers much of DelDOT properties and covers all properties back to Greentree. It is a very sophisticated system and is community owned. It is partly owned by City of Dover and partly by DelDOT and it just so happens to go through this property and the hospital. The original plans that the hospital had was to erect a parking garage on this property (on South Street) you can see to the far right, in the hook of that red line which is basically on top of the Tar Ditch system, that is eventually where they would like to put a parking garage but knowing that if they did that it would block the line, they actually can’t do that. They have been working with the City, State and the Legislature to fund the completion of the Tar Ditch design which the City has undergone. It is quite costly; so it is not as simple as just moving ahead and that has actually caused them not to be able to implement the parking garage on that area. The reason that the Tar Ditch line needs to be updated is because this area is prone to flooding and it floods at high levels of rain. The blue area on the aerial is showing where that flooding covers so you can see a number of our parking areas are covered and impacted. They work around that and they have made that work. But there has been some property damage but they continue to work with the City and hope that the City and the State can come together and change that plan. There are a number of reasons why they need additional parking. Back when the City’s Code was created, the number of beds in a hospital were the key to the parking. He believes that the Code requires one or two parking spots per bed. Actually, what’s been happening in the medical world in hospitals is that bed counts are actually not increasing as the community grows but what is increasing is the large number of outpatient procedures, testing, diagnostics, etc. that happen at the hospital. A lot more drivers come up to the hospital to use those daily services and that means that we need more parking. In addition to that, the hospital and Bayhealth in general (both Milford and Dover) have been approved to become a GME teaching hospital facility. That is a big deal to Dover because it will heighten Bayhealth’s advantage in terms of bringing new doctors and practitioners to our area. These young doctors can come to Bayhealth Kent Campus and be trained and be in an internship program. Our hope is that they get more doctors to relocate to Dover and Kent County so that they can get better coverage of our community for general practitioning. That is bringing more parking because we have more instructors, we have more administrators and we have more doctors who will actually come here as interns and as complete doctors to take care of our community. That is leading to the demand for more parking. This is a new program that has just been approved in the last 12 months so that explains one of the other reasons why we need some 10

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 additional parking. The next slide shows the aerial of the actual Scull Terrace entrance and at the bottom on the screen you can see Holy Cross and the parking that is already there and it is significant. You can also see the existing structures are on the property. In the buildout of this, all of those structures would be removed by phases. You can also see the very dense vegetation that exists around the edges of their parking facility. Their goal is to leave as much of that, if not all of it, so that it is a good barrier for people on Elm Terrace. Not only is there a separation with the trees but there is also a very significant ravine. In that ravine is a tremendous amount of City of Dover infrastructure; both water, sewer and storm drain infrastructure that the City has just made some major upgrades to. Most all of that land to the north of the parking facility is lands that by easement are controlled by the City of Dover. The need for that infrastructure is important to everybody in our community and we are not going to be touching those facilities. That is the main reason why they are asking for the waiver; they do not want those facilities that the City of Dover needs for water, sewer and storm drainage to be impacted by a fence. They don’t believe any other way than landscaping and the natural barriers make any sense. You can see where the 100, 150 and 200 each go and that they do have significant distances from residents so they do have good separation with the natural trees, the ravine and the distance. They think it allows a good reason for the Opaque Barrier to be granted a waiver. You can also see here the Phases. Phase 1 is the largest phase of parking and they need that quickly to meet their demands. In the red, you can see as part of them listening to the community, they are not going to demolish the Scull Mansion in Phase 1. They are going to continue to work with, talk to, and negotiate with the Friends of Old Dover to try to come up with an amenable plan to save that building. Those meetings have already occurred and they are going to continue that. They are basically saying that for 18 months they will leave that building there and not put parking in that area and they will continue to work with the Friends of Old Dover. One of their options is to move the building and erect it on another parcel; hopefully in the Historic District. There are other options that they are talking to the Friends of Old Dover about. You can see that Phases 3 and 2 are actually demolition of two existing structures. One is the Child Care facility in the east and the second in Phase 3 is the Surgery Center. Those phases are actually likely more than five years out because they have to find adequate facilities on the campus for those two uses. We are in the process of beginning to do that so those buildings would stay until adequate replacements were found; most likely on the main campus before that would be converted to parking. He mentioned the agreement with Holy Cross. He mentioned that the agreement includes the entrance off of Scull Terrace which provides them full access to their northern campus. As you all know, they do have a sanctuary and a church school and that parking is essential for both of those functions. This expansion is going to help benefit the church. They plan to relocate their staff parking to this parking facility and that will have a better control system and the people who are going to be walking down Scull Terrace, crossing South State Street, and using the current lighted facility that allows access into the hospital. They believe that it is safer to allow their staff to do that because it is in control. They believe that they are going to be better by working with Holy Cross. It is going to be clearer to them to cross at a safe location at South Street where that light is. In the future, they would like to see a lighted intersection at South Street but that is up to DelDOT and that would allow easy passage at a full four-point intersection and a safer crossing into the main entrance to the hospital along South Street. The next slide shows the parking within the Phase 1 limits and again in red, you can see that they are leaving Scull Mansion and their commitment is to continue to work with the Friends of Old 11

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 Dover for 18 months. They are also willing to help them fund the moving of that structure and those talks are going on with John Van Gorp leading that from the hospital. They are also agreeable to what the City Staff is outlining in terms of making sure that we document that building and perhaps even making some of the historical monuments for it if in fact we do end up having to take that building down. The next slide shows the actual build-out of the that parking facility. They have also committed as part of our letter to the City and to our neighbors that we are going to do an extensive landscaping plan along our western border and along our neighbors to both sides so that we have a very soft impression and a very aesthetically pleasing entry into the City. That is something that Bayhealth wants as much as the Friends of Old Dover. That is something that has come up in a number of these meetings. They are committed to an enhanced landscape plan that actually comes to the City Planning Staff with their individual plans for each phase that they would review as part of the Construction Master Plan. We are using the Construction Master Plan because of the phasing. We have a number of buildings that are being demolished over time. We have a number of phases of parking because of the nature under which we have to replace the buildings that are there. Mr. Van Gorp stated that he doesn’t necessarily have a formal statement to make other than the information that was presented by Mr. Moore is reflective of our plans. They have had very successful discussions with the Friends of Old Dover trying to come up with ways to meet their competing objectives. Obviously, those discussions continue but they are committed to try to come up with some sort of resolution here over the course of the next 18 months that tries to satisfy the needs for both parties. He should also share that the hospital is looking at some master planning for the hospital. Mr. Moore mentioned a few of the things that we need this parking for. They do plan on looking at other expansions for the hospital to modernize and to move to significantly more private rooms, all of which kind of points in the direction for quick growth and the need for additional parking. Mr. Hartman questioned if the construction of this parking lot and the impervious surfaces contribute to the flooding of the parking lot along South Street? Responding to Mr. Hartman, Mr. Moore stated no. They have done an extensive study of the problems that are associated with the Tar Ditch. What happens is that there is a large slug of water that comes from the west side of Dover. They have worked with both DNREC and the Kent Conservation District and the City. What ends up happening here is that this water actually gets out and into the piping systems for stormwater management and then into the St. Jones before that large slug of water comes from the west. That is because that system goes so far back so many miles back and that extended amount of water and the flooding comes from that larger area that is upstream. This will not contribute to that flooding at all. They will still have to meet their demand for stormwater management; and they can do that and have done that successfully at the hospital without increasing any of that flooding. Mr. Hartman stated that they have all seen the problems and they realize how difficult it can be. Responding to Mr. Hartman, Mr. Moore stated that one of the things that the hospital did was paid for a very expensive study that was used partly for the design that the City did for fixing this problem. That design is about 75-80% complete. They are very hopeful that that work can be 12

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 completed and allows us to do other things on the property. Mrs. Maucher opened a public hearing. Mrs. Melson-Williams referenced the series of public comments and correspondence that the Planning Office has received dating back to October 2020 in regards to this project. Some of them are kind of repeat letters as discussions occurred if you kind of read them in chronological order. These were provided to the Planning Commissioners as Exhibit Sets 1-4. Exhibit Set 4 was actually emailed to the Commissioners this afternoon. Exhibit Set 1 consists of a Letter from the Friends of Old Dover (also known as the Dover Historical Society) that was received on October 5, 2020. The second one is an Email from Nathan Attard dated October 9, 2020 with an attached copy of a Letter that was sent to Terrence Murphy, the CEO of Bayhealth. That Letter includes what was at that time, a listing of petitioners in support of that Letter which was expressing concerns about the future of the Scull Mansion. There was a significant amount of signees on that petition and she believes that it grew over time. Exhibit Set 2 consists of a Letter from the Mayor Robin R. Christiansen dated October 15, 2020. It is a Letter in support of the project to the Planning Commission, again noting the economic development and the needs for Bayhealth as a public health facility here in Dover. The second item on that public comment was an Email from Karen Horton dated October 18, 2020; and she noted her opposition to the demolition of the Scull Mansion and also notes about the gateway location of this property. She was encouraging an alternative solution. Exhibit Set 3 is some correspondence received. The first being a Letter from the Friends of Old Dover to John Van Gorp that was dated January 5, 2021. The Letter was copied to the Planning Director, so they included it. It is noting some information about the Scull Mansion property and them wanting to have conversations with Bayhealth about its future. The second is a Letter from the Friends of Old Dover to the Bayhealth Board of Directors Facilities Committee dated March 19, 2021. It notes their concern and the status of where things stood at that point in time with the Friends and their concerns with the Scull Mansion property. Exhibit Set 4 was correspondence received basically within the last week here. It was a Letter from the Friends of Old Dover to the Bayhealth Board of Directors dated April 13, 2021. It was received in the Planning Office for distribution to the Planning Commission on April 15, 2021. It notes their ongoing conversations that the Friends of Old Dover had with Bayhealth. It notes that they will not object to the application and they are continuing to work with Bayhealth in regards to the Scull Mansion property. It also does note the concerns about flooding, the concerns about preservation in Dover in general and they hope to continue to work with Bayhealth in a good faith effort to find a resolution in regards to this property. The second piece of correspondence is a Letter from the Pastor of the Holy Cross Church located at 631 South State Street dated February 10, 2021. It notes the interest of the Holy Cross property, the expansion of parking opportunities, and that they had no fundamental objections to this planned upgrading of the adjacent neighboring property. Mr. Richard Kosior – 12 Elm Terrace Dover, DE 19901 Mr. Kosior stated that he lives along the northern boundary of the Bayhealth property. He would like to recognize the efforts of Bayhealth and Mr. Moore for reaching out to at least the residents on Elm Terrace and listening to our concerns regarding the expansion of the parking lot. He understands that the hospital is growing and the area is growing; and there is a need for increased parking especially with the flooding issues with the existing employee parking lot there on South Street. No employee should have to walk through a half a foot of water to get to work. His 13

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 concern is with the request for a Waiver for the Opaque Barrier; not so much about the removal of the fence but the landscaping issues. He does understand that the landscaping is to be retained and it is mentioned in the application packet that the existing trees will be preserved or retained. He just does not see a comment that with the storm that came through last year, a number of those trees have since been removed due to damage from the storm. They also had a sewer project which the City of Dover just completed within the last few months. They had two approximately sixty-foot bald cypress trees that had to be removed to allow for construction on repairing that sewer line. So that further reduced some screens that they had between them and the proposed parking lot. What really concerns him though is in Phase 1 of the Site Plan, specifically Chart 201 in the packet, they show pictorially where the trees are located along the northern boundary there; but when you get to Phase 3, the Landscaping Plan L101, a lot of those trees are removed to make way for the entrance which will be built at the intersection at South Street. He knows that they do include some trees along the inside perimeter of that entrance way. But again, you are talking a significant area there which would be lighted and their concern is the light pollution resulting from all of that construction and all of the parking spaces. Has there been a Traffic Impact Study regarding putting a light there at that proposed intersection? Anyone who travels down State Street in the morning or afternoon is well aware that traffic on that road is horrible at best. There is the Holy Cross School in the mornings along with South Dover Elementary just down the street contributing to traffic, not to mention all of the employees in that morning commute. His concern is that putting a light there would just further compound the traffic issues that already exist. Mr. James Dinkuhn – 22 Elm Terrace Dover, DE 19901 Mr. Dinkuhn stated that Mr. Kosior took the words right out of his mouth. With the situation with Phase 3 that looks like an extension of South Street, he was wondering if that was going to interfere with the tree line that they are proposing to keep. Mr. Moore stated that with the hospital and its enhanced landscaping plan, any trees that they do take out; they will plant additional trees so that they create a buffer of landscaping along that entire Elm Terrace back facility. Yes, there are a couple of trees that will come out as part of that final Phase 3 and they believe that it is more than five years out. Number one, because they have to find locations for those two buildings; and number two, they have a lot of work to do with the Department of Transportation with a Traffic Impact Study, impacts on the street and the discussion associated with lighted intersections. So that is the reason that they believe that Phase 3 is so far out. They have done some initial studies. They do believe that a light there can actually help some of the problems that the Holy Cross Church is having because it actually allows a stoppage of the flow of traffic and that will allow some direct movement into the Scull Terrace entrance for people going into the school. Those discussions and those studies will be enhanced as they move into the DelDOT and the final phase. They are willing to replant trees and large trees along that border to provide that buffer and they will remove as little as possible. Mary T. Mason - 36 The Green Dover, DE 19901 Ms. Mason stated that she does appreciate all of the meetings that they have had with Bayhealth. The Friends of Old Dover are very happy that they have another 18 months to get more information and try to find a solution so that they can hopefully preserve that house and that Bayhealth can have the parking that they need. They have talked to several movers and there 14

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 does not seem to be an option that they can relocate Scull Mansion. In the conversations that they have, they are going to have to figure out something else. It seems like if they can’t move it and it’s preserved at the location that it is now. Ms. Ellen Richardson – 35 Fairway Court Dover, DE 19901 Ms. Richardson is a member of the Friends of Old Dover. They seriously question the ability of the estuary to absorb the additional runoff of stormwater that will occur. It is very clear that the additional parking is needed because the flood zone has not been corrected in Downtown Dover. If that had been corrected, Bayhealth could build their parking garage. As Ms. Mason said, they would like to make it very clear that the building cannot be moved. So, although Bayhealth has given them a grace period of 18 months to figure out how to move it, they have already checked with several building movers and the building cannot be moved due to the utilities, the age of the building, the structure of the building and so forth. Finally, on the destruction of the Downtown historical properties, she would be looking to the Planning Commission to preserve their historical heritage for Dover. She would certainly hope that the Planning Commission is not looking to destroy our historical heritage. Mr. Nathan Attard – 452 East Loockerman Street Dover, DE 19901 Mr. Attard stated that he wanted to echo the comments that Ms. Mason made earlier. He is the Dover citizen who petitioned to save the Scull Mansion which did get more than 400 signatures and we are very proud of that. He thinks that it’s evidence of the really immense importance that house has in our community. You can also see that in the Letter that was submitted by the Mayor about the value and the house in the community. It is something that many people very much admired growing up and throughout the years. He is grateful to Bayhealth for their intervention here. They could have continued this application in October 2020 and faced a number of angry citizens, but they did take the time to talk to them and he really appreciates that. He thinks that it is a strong benefit to our community to have these types of discussions and he is grateful, especially for John Van Gorp for leading that process. It is a solution that he can support. He has been working with the Friends of Old Dover and he is very grateful for their effort; it is just not any sort of optimal solution. As Ms. Richardson pretty eloquently said, this is a house that they have been told cannot move. There are limitations around the City of Dover; the width of State Street and the bridge that goes over South Street. It would really be challenging to get it anywhere than the current location and land demands in that area are very challenging. It really speaks to challenges that they are facing in implementing their Historic Preservation program in the City of Dover. They had a building on the National Register of Historic Places that was one parcel away from being in the City’s Historic District. It should have been something that was considered over the years. Historic is necessarily the grand historic buildings like the Scull Mansion. The National Park Service considers buildings 50 years or older to potentially be eligible for a listing on the National Register of Historic Places for contributing to the Historic District. We have many of those around town including many buildings further south than the Scull Mansion. It’s not that the Historic District just ends there; it continues south on State Street. He really hopes that they can use this as a lesson in the City of Dover that we really need to be more robust in the way we deal with historic preservation and that we consider hiring a Preservation Planner; someone whose job is dedicated to this to work with people like Bayhealth so that we don’t end up in situations like this in the future. He would really like to emphasis the optimal solution here is really for the City to take the lead in trying to deal with the target issue. 15

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 If we dealt with this effectively, we wouldn’t be in this situation, we wouldn’t be building parking here, and the neighbors on Elm Terrace wouldn’t have to deal with this. It is just a real challenge and as we face threats of things like climate change, the flooding and Tar Ditch is only getting worse. The runoff from this lot could potentially contribute in the future with stronger storms and stuff. Ms. Ann Horsey – 7 The Green Dover, DE 19901 Ms. Horsey does not have a statement. She thinks that everything that she was thinking has already been said by the previous speakers. They are really out there looking to work to get to a solution to save Scull Mansion. Mrs. Maucher closed the public hearing. Mrs. Welsh stated that she has a lot of emotion for historical issues as far as architecture and things go. She applauds Bayhealth for their ability and their foresight to work with the Friends of Old Dover. She also applauds the Friends of Old Dover for seeing the point of view of Bayhealth. Both organizations have legitimate issues that they are working towards. She thinks back on when she was a child. She always rode past the Scull Mansion many times and it always gave her a feeling of pride that we had places like that here that were preserved. She thinks about places like Rome where the Coliseum is situated in and around the middle of the city; they built around it. She just thinks that maybe we could, having heard the comments that the Mansion cannot be moved, is there the possibility to retain the Mansion in its present location and build around it. It wouldn’t be as ideal being in the middle of a parking lot as it is in a grass land area that it now occupies but it would still be part of our history. We have some time to deal with that issue; and it is just a thought for people to consider. Mrs. Lord stated that she comes from northern Virginia. When she was a little girl northern Virginia was just farms and historic houses and a very rural area. If any of you have been down there any time in the past 20 years, you have seen that it is no longer that; it is an extension of Washington D.C. There have been many beautiful historic properties just paved over with little to no regard to historic significance. She is not saying that Bayhealth is doing this. When she read the packet, she was under the impression that the Mansion could be moved. It was surprising to her to hear that is cannot. She would caution Dover against going the way of northern Virginia in just demolishing whatever gets in the way because it is regretful when you look back on what has been lost. Mr. Hartman stated that he would like to thank Mrs. Welsh for what she said about Bayhealth for working with the Friends of Old Dover and the Elm Terrace residents to try to come up with a solution. He agrees that a solution will be difficult to come up with. He is not one to destroy Dover heritage or anything like that, but this group needs to recognize how important and vidal Bayhealth is to Dover and to the region. Let’s recognize the historic value of Scull Mansion but let’s also recognize the economic, social and medical importance of Bayhealth and where it is located and their legal rights to the property they own. Mrs. Welsh stated that she agrees with Mr. Hartman’s comments. She thinks Bayhealth is a valuable asset to the community as well and she agrees that they have the legal right to do what 16

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 they need to with the property. She is just pointing out that there are other “emotional” issues that people have with historical properties and our heritage in the community. As the First State, it has always been a matter of pride with Dover residents that we have places like The Green. they are being very proactive with allowing the project to do forward and make provisions to do something with the Mansion. So, she just hopes that we can do something to preserve everything for the future of the City. She applauds both organizations, Bayhealth and the Friends of Old Dover for seeing the opposite sides. She believes that both of them are taking into consideration, the goals of each organization and that we are all looking forward to making Dover, itself a better community. That is all of our goals and she thinks that they can do that. Mr. Hartman stated that if the past year have reminded him of anything; it’s how to make hard choices for the public good. He thinks that this might come to be one of those choices. Mr. Adams stated that he heard Mr. Moore mention their intention to replace those trees and plant trees along the roadway that would come into play with Phase 3. Could Mr. Moore speak a little bit more about that in light of the comments made by the residents of Elm Terrace and their concerns relative to having a barrier there between the rear of their properties and this property? Responding to Mr. Adams, Mr. Moore stated that yes, they will replant more trees than they removed. They will do substantial sizes of plants, that is part of their commitment in their letter to enhance the landscaping that is required. They believe that there is a safety issue with erecting an opaque fence on a ravine that is about 25 feet in depth. As water goes down that ravine as it does naturally, it will get caught by the fence and it will stop that water and cause it to run in different directions causing an unnatural swell. He can tell you that he has had conversations with the City of Dover Public Works Department and they agree with him that the Opaque Barrier is not a safe way to screen and that landscaping is a better way. The landscaping does help uptake some of the water as well as gives the barrier both sound and visual. As a professional, he can tell you that it is the way to go and that is what they are committed to. Mr. Adams moved to approve S-20-10 Bayhealth Staff Parking Lot Expansion at Scull Property (Revision of March 25, 2021) including the waiver for the partial elimination of curbing, the elimination or relocation of bicycle parking, and the elimination of the Opaque Barrier component and the DAC Report and the addendum to it that was prepared, seconded by Mrs. Malone and the motion was carried 7-1 by roll call vote with Dr. Jones absent. Mr. Adams voting yes; he thinks situations like this are always tough, but he thinks that Bayhealth is working with the Friends of Old Dover and the neighbors. He thinks that they will continue the work; it won’t end tonight. Mr. Roach voting yes; for reasons previously stated. Mrs. Malone voting yes; for reasons stated. Mr. Hartman voting yes; based on the original DAC Report and the Addendum comments. Mr. Baldwin voting yes; based on reasons previously stated. Mrs. Lord voting no; she is upset that we will be losing Scull Mansion. Like she said, she has watched it happen and it’s a sad thing. She applauds Bayhealth for working as hard as they can to work with the Friends of Old Dover. But at the end of the day, we are going to lose that house. She lives on the 200 block of State Street next to Wesley. She has heard from a number of her neighbors who have lived here for a long time and they are very upset about losing Scull Mansion; so, she is speaking for the people who live around her. Mrs. Welsh voting yes; she has a lot of faith in Bayhealth and Becker Morgan Group. Becker Morgan Group always does their homework, they are very thorough, and she believes that they will work with the Friends of Old 17

CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION APRIL 19, 2021 Dover. She understands the situation where they say that they cannot move the house but to her, that doesn’t mean that it is the end of the road because there are always possibilities. She believes that they can work together and come to a solution that will benefit all of our pride in Dover. Mrs. Maucher voting yes; based on the DAC Report and the Addendum and she also echoes the other concerns. She thinks that there is a time period that is baked into this and there are other options to be investigated on what to do to try to preserve. Unfortunately, there was a perfect storm of ill events that have led us to where we are, but she thinks that the parties are working together to move forward. NEW BUSINESS - None Meeting adjourned at 9:30 PM. Sincerely, Kristen Mullaney Secretary 18