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COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT COMMITTEE
The Parks, Recreation, and Community Enhancement Committee Meeting was held on January
14, 2013, at 12:00 p.m. with Mr. Anderson presiding in the absence of Chairman Bonar. Members
present were Mr. Dixon and Mrs. Horsey. Mr. Lewis was absent. Councilman Perza and Mayor
Carey were also present.
AGENDA ADDITIONS/DELETIONS
Mrs. Horsey moved for approval of the agenda as presented, seconded by Mr. Dixon and
unanimously carried.
Consideration of The Green as a National Monument
Mayor Carey introduced Ms. Molly Ross, Special Assistant to the Director, National Park Service
(NPS), Ms. Brenda Waters from the National Park Service, and former City Councilman
Timothy Slavin, Director of the Division of Historic and Cultural Affairs (DHCA), State of
Delaware.
Ms. Molly Ross advised members that Senator Thomas Carper and the Delaware congressional
delegation were attempting to establish a national park in Delaware and that Senator Carper had been
engaged in this effort for approximately 10 years. He introduced legislation in the last few
Congresses to establish the First State National Historical Park, which would incorporate a number
of areas in each of Delaware’s three (3) counties; however, this legislation had not been enacted thus
far. Ms. Ross explained that there are two (2) methods whereby an area can become part of the
National Park system: 1) if Congress enacts legislation to make it a national historic park; or 2) if
the President acts under the authority of the Antiquities Act of 1906 to designate it as a national
monument. Ms. Ross stated that regardless of which approach is used, the area would be managed
as a unit of the National Park system under the laws used to govern all such parks and the
designation as a park or monument would not make much difference.
She explained that the National Park System is composed of 398 nationally significant areas of the
country, most of which are historic units. The National Park Service (NPS) was created to help
manage these units in 1916. In 1906, Congress passed the Antiquities Act, which delegated some
of its authority to the President “to declare by public proclamation historic landmarks, historic and
prehistoric structures, and other objects of historic or scientific interest that are situated upon the
lands owned or controlled by the Government of the United States to be national monuments, and
may reserve as a part thereof parcels of land, the limits of which in all cases shall be confined to the
smallest area compatible with the proper care and management of the objects to be protected.”
Ms. Ross noted that over 125 national monuments have been created by presidents and that in many
cases after presidents have protected these areas as national monuments, Congress has subsequently
embraced and ratified them, perhaps changing their boundaries or adding authorities. Although most
national monuments have been on land the Federal Government already owns, the Antiquities Act
also provides authority for the United States to receive donations of non-federal land for this
purpose.
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Mrs. Ross indicated that since the legislation to designate a site in Delaware has not been moving
forward in Congress, many have wanted a national monument to be considered for the sites in
Delaware that Senator Carper had focused on. She stated that the Dover Green has been an obvious
part of the national historic park proposal. Ms. Ross indicated that a determination was being made
whether The Green was owned by the City or State and stressed that obtaining a clear title was
necessary before any transactions could be completed. A donation of an interest in the property
would have to be made to the Federal Government and this could be done through a historic
preservation easement, which would state that the City or the State would continue to own and
manage The Green in a manner consistent with the historic preservation goals shared with the
Federal Government and the Secretary of the Interior’s standards of historic preservation. It would
also state that should the City or State fail in management to these standards, the NPS would have
the right, but not the obligation, to step in and assure management for historic preservation goals.
Ms. Ross believed that the terms of the easement would be consistent with current goals and
management of The Green and did not anticipate much change. The Green would be contained
within the boundaries of the monument. Ms. Ross indicated that areas being considered for the
national monument in Delaware were included on the list prepared by Senator Carper for legislative
action; however, she stated that it was very possible, for reasons of timing and management
feasibility, that the complete list would not be included in the monument. The areas that have been
prioritized because of their importance to the history of Delaware include sites in New Castle
(including the Courthouse, The New Castle Green, and the Sheriff’s Office), The Green in Dover,
and perhaps Old Swede’s Church in Wilmington. In addition, interest had been expressed in
donating 1,100 acres in the Woodlawn area, northwest of Wilmington, which has ties to early Quaker
settlement and William Penn, for inclusion in the proposal. She explained that in order to meet the
legal standards and management needs of the monument, the Federal Government was looking for
a fee interest in Woodlawn and the Sheriff’s House in New Castle. Ms. Ross stated that there would
be benefits to the proposed designation in that these historic sites would be listed on the NPS
website, local tourism would benefit, designation as a national monument would lead to higher
prioritization for NPS funding possibilities, and the NPS would help with historic interpretation. She
stated the NPS would look for ways to partner with State or local agencies managing these parks and
historic areas, seek efficiencies, and establish cooperative agreements to help with management. She
complimented current historic interpretation efforts and stated that NPS would be looking for ways
to work with the City.
Ms. Ross emphasized that designation as a national monument under the Antiquities Act was a
Presidential authority that is guarded carefully by offices at the Department of Justice and the White
House. Requirements are carefully reviewed and it is NPS’s responsibility to gather facts and make
sure that everything is in order for the President to make a decision. The historic preservation
easement must be obtained before the President’s action on the proclamation. Ms. Ross stated that
the NPS was working with staff on the title for The Green, an environmental site assessment must
be performed, and the NPS lawyer must determine the conservation easement language required.
Ms. Laura Haynes, Senior Policy Advisory for Energy and Environment, Senator Thomas Carper’s
Office, stated that she had been working on the establishment of a national park in Delaware for five
(5) years. She stated that the legislation proposed was not “dead” and some movement was made
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in the last Congress in that the legislation was moved out of the Senate; however, she stated that it
was increasingly difficult for parks bills to be passed by Congress, especially with current budget and
gridlock issues. She stated that Senator Carper was looking for all options to move forward and the
delegation would continue legislative efforts, even if monument status were attained, since the few
parks that were being approved by Congress were those that had been previously designated as
national monuments. She confirmed that it would make no difference for the Dover Green if the
goal was accomplished through legislation or by designation by the President as a monument. She
indicated that the historical easement option was included in the proposed legislation as well.
Ms. Haynes stated that the timeline for negotiations regarding the project was being moved forward
and the proposed legislation would “give the green light” for the administrator to enter negotiations
to acquire the site; however, acquiring monument status would require completion of the
negotiations before the historic site could be designated. She advised members that these steps must
be taken regardless of the approach used. She noted that Senator Carper was trying to get as many
properties as possible on the list into the monument and that there was a fairly high confidence level
that this could be done for the Dover Green with the Committee’s assistance.
Ms. Ross expressed her appreciation to Senator Carper and the Delaware congressional delegation
for their work toward this effort. She confirmed that the President’s action, if it occurs, would not
preclude the park legislation. Ms. Ross advised members that there was a current “window of
opportunity” lending itself to a possible Presidential action since the Conservation Fund had come
forward with a donor who committed over $20M to purchase the historically significant Woodlawn
property. The Conservation Fund indicated that they cannot hold property long and were focused
on getting it into the hands of organizations that can protect, preserve, and manage it properly, which
has put pressure on all involved to take action quickly. She stated that the NPS felt that this property
would tie in very nicely with sites like the Dover Green and New Castle sites in telling nationally
significant historic stories in Delaware.
Mr. Scott Koenig, City Manager, stated that this matter was scheduled for consideration by Council
later that evening. Of concern was the fact that ownership of The Green was undetermined. He
explained that the City Solicitor indicated that there may not be a deed for the property because it
was laid out before that type of instrument existed. Mr. Koenig stated his belief that the property
was owned by either the State or the City and that the attorneys could address this issue. He
explained that if the project were recommended to Council and if Council approved it, an
environmental assessment would also be required. He felt that there would be associated legal and
environmental expenses which, at this point, would be charged to the City Manager’s budget since
this project was not anticipated at the beginning of the year. He expressed his hope that if Council
endorsed the project, their action would revert the matter back to staff to work with the NPS to
achieve monument status.
Mr. Anderson stated his concerns about the possible effects on private property surrounding The
Green, the City’s ability to control and manage The Green, and the possible budgetary impact. He
questioned the need for a deadline that caused the placement of this item on the agenda of the City
Council meeting scheduled for later in the evening.
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Ms. Ross stated that there was no firm date regarding the President’s schedule; however, there was
time pressure to get the land transactions accomplished by February 15, 2013 when the Conservation
Fund would consider how much longer it could hold the Woodlawn property. Those who have
worked on this package in Senator Carper’s Office and in the Executive Branch believe that the
entire package is quite compelling; therefore, consideration must be given to the portion that is on
the shortest time fuse (Woodlawn). She added that the conveyance of the historic preservation
easement would not take place until a decision was made to go forward with a national monument,
and she anticipated that this would occur very close to the day that a Presidential Proclamation would
be issued. She stated that before that time it would be necessary for all documents to be prepared
(possibly put in escrow) so that they would be available to record.
Ms. Haynes stated that Senator Carper was working with federal administration and the
Congressional delegation and saw a very small window of opportunity for Delaware to get into the
National Park System. She stated the project may go forward and if the City was not willing to
participate, the City may be moved out of monument status and would have to wait for a national
park to be established, which may not occur for many years. Ms. Haynes noted that the Secretary
of the Interior was a strong advocate of the project and was currently speaking to the President
regarding this matter; however, it was believed that the Secretary may vacate his position in the near
future. She explained that due to term turnovers in government, it has been necessary to re-educate
NPS staff regarding the project, and the current staff was working very hard to move it forward.
Ms. Haynes stated that the strongest proposal for the President included the Woodlawn property with
the other historical sites, including the Dover Green. She indicated that the Conservation Fund is
a small organization that could not hold onto the Woodlawn property much longer (possibly until
mid-February) due to liability concerns.
Ms. Anne Reigle, resident of Wyoming, Delaware, stated that she did not feel that reasons had been
presented for the Federal Government to take control of The Green, which was laid out before the
City of Dover was laid out and the Federal Government was established. She felt that residents of
the City of Dover and Delaware already recognized the historical significance of The Green.
Ms. Reigle stated that the City of Dover had worked very hard to preserve the buildings and the
integrity of The Green and she did not feel that the Federal Government could contribute anything
else. She expressed her opinion that it would not be a good idea to sign over control to allow the
government to give the City guidelines and “step in and take over” if those guidelines were not
followed.
Ms. Haynes stated that, as author of the legislation submitted, she felt the Federal Government would
have an “interest” in the property by virtue of a historical easement rather than “control.” She
advised members that the Dover Green has been part of the park concept since a resource study was
performed in 2008 and earlier; therefore, this is not a brand new idea.
Ms. Ross noted that Delaware is the only state that does not have any national parks or monuments
and that the project would bring attention to this area. The Green would still be owned and managed
by those who currently do so, and an easement would be deeded to the Federal Government to ensure
that the property is preserved for posterity and its story is told. She reiterated the advantages
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including a higher prioritization for funding and partnership in interpretation and consulting on
historic preservation. If the monument is created, an approximate three (3) year management
planning process would take place, including consultation with the City and the public. As to
whether it would affect residents along The Green or events there, she expressed her opinion that as
long as the historic property was not being impaired or destroyed, there should be no problem with
those activities.
Mr. John Garey, 48 The Green, concurred with Ms. Reigle’s comments, feeling that local entities
do a great job holding City events and preserving the historical accuracy of The Green. He stated
that he has been an owner on The Green for five (5) years and questioned why those in attendance
were just learning about the project, stating that he did not know about it until this morning. He
stated he had not heard anything that he would consider a big benefit to moving forward. Mr. Garey
stated that it had not been specified how help would be provided from the NPS and how more people
would be brought to the area, noting that he did not feel that placing The Green on the National Park
Service website was “a big deal.” He stated that he had not heard how the project would impact his
property and, as a landowner and a taxpayer, felt that it was not prudent to rush this issue. Mr. Garey
noted that he already had to come to the City anytime he wished to do something to the exterior of
his building, including the placement of signs, painting, etc., and did not wish to have to go to the
Secretary of the Interior, Ken Salazar, for permission to make these types of changes.
Ms. Ross stated that since Mr. Garey’s property would not be within the boundaries of the National
Monument, this would not be required. Mr. Garey stated that he did not know the impact on
property adjacent to a national park or monument.
Ms. Ross advised members that the boundary of the easement being sought would not include the
residents around The Green and that it would not impact what was being done today. She stated that
well-proven, well-documented, economic studies have shown that typically every $1 spent by the
NPS in these areas results in $4 to the local community since parks are usually tourism and economic
generators for communities.
Ms. Haynes reiterated that Senator Carper has been interested in a national park in Delaware because
of the economic benefits that it could bring to the State. She noted that local taxpayer funds are
going toward the NPS, and every state in the nation besides Delaware is benefitting from this since
Delaware is the only state without a national park. She indicated that every other state is receiving
at least $1M for their national park and some are receiving $15M-$30M. Acknowledging that a
national park in Delaware could not compete with parks such as the Grand Canyon or Great Smoky
Mountains, Ms. Haynes noted that Rhode Island has a very small national park and is receiving over
$2M in economic benefits from tourism. She stated that this was why Senator Carper believed that
there should be a national park in Delaware, in addition to the need to preserve Delaware history and
tell its story to the rest of the nation.
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Mr. Garey stated he felt it unlikely that there would be an increase in visitors touring The Green even
if it were made a national park and stated that a great job is currently being done in bringing people
to the Dover community to see the Delaware Public Archives and locations of interest. He did not
see how putting The Green on the website would change this significantly.
Ms. Reigle stated that she was a “big fan” of the national parks and that rangers do a great job. She
felt that national parks typically encompass sites like battlefields or forests, rather than a “little pad
of green” in the middle of an area that is used for commercial businesses, courts, and residences.
She stated that she would love for Delaware to have a national park and suggested that Fort Delaware
or Woodlawn would lend themselves to such a use. She did not feel that The Green, surrounded by
the Dover community, could be labeled a national monument without some consequence to the
community, noting that it was not even known who owned the property. Ms. Reigle stated that the
City of Dover had maintained this property for years. She did not feel that the assistance of the
Federal Government was needed and that the site could be managed better by local people who are
committed. She stated that her family owns property on The Green and had worked with the City of
Dover to renovate it by putting expensive copper piping on the side of it. She urged members not to
pass this matter on to City Council and to reject or at least table it for a significant period of time so
that the rest of the community would have an opportunity to come forward.
Mrs. Horsey stated her understanding that the City of Dover was considering eliminating the Historic
District Commission and possibly the Historic District. (City Clerk’s Office Note: The Role and
Scope of the Historic District Commission was scheduled for consideration at the Legislative,
Finance, and Administration Committee Meeting scheduled for later in the day) and suggested that
help may be needed from the Federal Government, such as that being proposed, if the City was even
remotely thinking of doing away with its own standards and guidelines.
Responding to Mrs. Horsey, Ms. Ross stated that although she had walked the property, she had not
looked at maps of the land being considered. She stated her understanding that the proposal was
focused on The Green and that the NPS would make sure that everyone’s rights of way would be
protected and public access would be provided. Although she did not have the details, she reassured
members that there would be real estate documents with maps attached and that parties would have
to come to agreement to define the precise interests.
Ms. Haynes stated that NPS visited Dover in 2008 and performed a related natural resource study
in Dover and a public hearing was held at that time. Public comment did not include concerns with
regard to incorporating the Dover Green in the National Park System. She explained that a
significant number of public meetings had been held in addition to hearings in Congress and the
information had been on Senator Carper’s website for quite some time.
Mr. Perza questioned when the City, State, or Federal Government would meet with property owners
who are impacted to review a map of the proposed plan. He stated that no one had seen the
boundaries of the plan or knew if private property would be impacted versus the two (2) islands of
grass. He felt that many people have questions, such as if there are insurance needs, who would set
standards on the preservation guidelines, and whether the parking situation would be involved. He
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felt that a question and answer session would be helpful with presentation of a map and information
on the impact of the project. He felt there was a perception that this matter was being “sprung” on
the public, although he stated he could appreciate the deadline involved.
Ms. Ross stated that the national monument option is not used often and is usually for extraordinary
circumstances, historically when Congress has been unable to act regarding very worthy projects.
She stated that the NPS had been waiting to see whether the last Congress would support and enact
the legislation, but this did not occur. She felt it logical that people would want to understand the
impact on their lives. She stated that NPS staff and individuals in the various locations were
working on related documents. She stated her understanding was that the focus was on telling the
story of how the Constitution was ratified in Dover and this involved “the grass”; however, she
stated that maps were not available at this time.
Mr. Perza indicated that he felt that a decision should not be made until the relevant documents were
read and an understanding was obtained about how the project would impact Dover. He
acknowledged that it may be a good idea but wanted an understanding of what would be voted on
and the details.
Mr. Slavin stated that the Division of Historical and Cultural Affairs (DHCA) has a significant
presence on The Green since it owns property at 21 The Green, as well as the Old State House, and
offers public programming through the John Bell House located there. He noted that the DHCA also
owns and manages 41 historic properties on behalf of the State, at least three (3) of which are
included in the first iteration of the proposed national monument, one (1) of which is the New Castle
Green where similar questions were being asked. He advised members that the New Castle Green
is also surrounded by private property owners; however, it was the understanding in New Castle that
the interest in the easement was only on the land of The Green itself and would not convey to the
streets, the sidewalk across the street, or any properties surrounding The Green. Mr. Slavin noted
that he was in the business of historic preservation and bringing people to cultural attractions and
felt the proposed project was a wonderful thing for the historic preservation of The Green which
would solidify, acknowledge, and place in perpetuity all of the efforts that the City had made in the
past to preserve it. He stated that the DHCA manages approximately 60 easements across the State
to ensure that unforeseen events do not occur. In terms of cultural attraction, he agreed that a
phenomenal job is done locally to attract people to these sites and they are doing a wonderful job of
interpretation; however, he felt that “more is always better” and that having the cachet of being part
of the NPS and the marketing that takes place through them would be a significant boost to current
efforts. He understood the issues being raised about timing and the content of the language in the
easement which referred to baseline documentation, including maps, that was not provided, and
hoped those questions would be answered. Mr. Slavin stated that the same need for documentation
was being expressed in reviewing the language proposed for the New Castle Green.
Responding to Mr. Anderson, Mr. Koenig stated that no information had been mailed to individual
property owners in the area but the meeting agenda had been posted as required.
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Ms. Haynes stated that it has been the understanding of Senator Carper’s Office from the NPS that
only The Green would be included, not homes or streets. She stated that the Park Service had drafted
a map of the site because the Dover Green has been in the legislation for a significant amount of
time.
Ms. Reigle expressed her opinion that The Green had no value without its surroundings; therefore
property owners would be affected. She felt that property owners should have a say and that they
should be given notice.
Mr. Slavin stated that the local jurisdiction of the City would never be relinquished through the
easement and the City would always determine the use of land surrounding The Green.
Mr. Anderson felt that it would be appropriate to notify those within 200 feet from the area and
expressed his concern that this had not been done.
Mr. Garey inquired what type of entry the easement would grant onto the property. Responding,
Ms. Ross explained that the terms of the easement would say that the City or State would continue
to own and manage the land but shall manage it to preserve the historic nature of the property to the
standards for historic preservation that are set by the Secretary of Interior. She stated that such
easements are common tools to make sure that “a 7-Eleven is not put in the middle of The Green.”
Mr. Anderson stated that the easement included terms that would prevent any buildings or structures
from being built on the property and require that it be kept approximately as it is.
Responding to Ms. Reigle regarding the discussions that would be taking place later in the day
concerning the City’s Historic District Commission, Mr. Anderson stated his belief that there was
a possibility that the functions of the Historic District Commission could revert to the Planning
Commission but that commitment to historic preservation would not end.
Ms. Ross advised members that a decision must be made since the establishment of a First State
National Monument was likely to occur on a “fast track.” She stated her availability to attend future
sessions on this issue and that NPS staff would discuss the matter with City staff and review maps,
etc. She indicated that there would be a management planning process to ensure that this would be
accomplished in a way that was “smart”, that the City was supportive of, and that was consistent
with the community. Ms. Ross stated it would be likely that uniformed NPS park rangers would be
seen in the area and grants and funding for historic preservation efforts from the Federal Government
would be placed higher in the queue for federal funding. She apologized that some of those present
were just learning about this project. She explained that the NPS had been asked by Congress
previously to do a special resource study to determine whether Delaware had resources that merit
national park status. Many public hearings were held and the study was completed at the end of
2008 and sent to Congress in 2009 and, on the basis of those public hearings and that study, the
delegation from Delaware introduced the legislation under Senator Carper’s leadership. She
indicated that approximately 12 hearings and meetings associated with the legislation had been
conducted.
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Mr. Anderson stated that some of those present were uncomfortable with the matter going forward
to Council without maps attached and inquired if it would be possible to have them submitted for
inclusion for Council’s consideration later in the evening. Ms. Ross offered to contact the NPS
Lands Office to inquire about the status and would check on legislative maps as well.
Ms. Haynes noted that Senator Carper sees this project as an economic benefit to the area to provide
assistance to the good work that was being done locally and did not anticipate a change other than
perhaps the availability of additional money from the Federal Government, additional tourism, and
rangers in the area. She felt this would be an economic benefit to the City of Dover and, for this
reason, the delegation and the Government have been supportive. She offered to return as many
times as possible to answer questions if needed.
Mr. Dixon stated that he was troubled that property owners in the area had not been notified of the
project. He felt that the project sounded positive; however, he expressed concern about pushing
through something that everyone had not had an opportunity to think and voice their opinions about.
Mr. Anderson moved to recommend that the matter be referred to Council with a recommendation
that a public hearing be held and the surrounding property owners be notified. The motion was
seconded by Mrs. Horsey.
Mr. Koenig stated that if the recommendation were to hold a public hearing, he was unsure if this
would fit into the timeline. He felt that the requirement to hold a public hearing might prevent the
City from participating in this specific application. Mr. Koenig felt that the only way to participate
in this proposal would be through a favorable vote by Council later in the evening, noting that an
easement must be drafted and an environmental study must be performed.
Mr. Anderson stated that there might be future opportunities in this regard.
Ms. Haynes stated that this project may never be accomplished through legislation and this may be
the City’s only chance to participate in the project and receive the economic benefits that the
community had previously indicated that they wanted to enjoy. She suggested a public meeting and
perhaps an emergency Council meeting. She noted that a public meeting was held two (2) years ago
on this issue and that she attended and presented information regarding the Dover Green.
Responding to Ms. Reigle, Mr. Anderson stated that all interested parties, whether in favor or
opposed, should attend the Council Meeting scheduled later in the evening.
As noted earlier, due to time constraints this item was scheduled for consideration by City Council
later in the evening.
On a call for the question, the motion that the matter be referred to Council with a
recommendation that a public hearing be held and the surrounding property owners be
notified was unanimously carried.
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Update - CDBG Program
Mrs. Tracey Harvey, Planner I, reviewed the Status of FY-12 Community Development Block Grant
(CDBG) Projects. In reference to the Homeownership Assistance Program, she advised members
that three (3) closings were scheduled for January 31, 2013, two (2) through the Neighborhood
Stabilization Program (NSP) and one (1) through CDBG and she expressed her thanks to the
Committee for approving the reallocation of funds to the homeownership programs, noting that this
funding had already been reallocated for future use.
Mr. Dixon moved for adjournment, seconded by Mrs. Horsey and unanimously carried.
Meeting Adjourned at 1:26 P.M.
David L. Anderson
Acting Chairman
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