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CITY OF DOVER PLANNING COMMISSION
June 17, 2013
The Regular Meeting of the City of Dover Planning Commission was held on Monday, June 17,
2013 at 7:00 PM with Chairman Colonel Welsh presiding. Members present were Mr. Shomo, Mr.
Tolbert, Mr. Holt, Dr. Jones, Ms. Still, Mr. Ambruso and Colonel Welsh. Mr. Holden and Mr.
Baldwin were absent.
Staff members present were Mrs. Melson-Williams, Ms. Cornwell and Mrs. Mullaney. Also present
were Mr. Mike Riemann and Mr. John Canuso. Also speaking from the public were Mrs. Belinda
Baker, Mr. Peter Thompson, Mrs. Kara Okonewski, Mrs. Della Hopkins, Mrs. Loretta Peer and Mr.
David Okonewski.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Colonel Welsh stated that in making a motion to approve the agenda, Commission members should
acknowledge that application S-13-11 Woodmill Apartments Storage Building and Revised Active
Recreation Area that was removed from the May 20, 2013 meeting and has not be forwarded so it
will be scheduled for a future meeting. Also, application SB-13-03 Lands of KW Lands at 1570
North DuPont Highway will be removed from tonight’s agenda and will be scheduled for a future
meeting.
Dr. Jones moved to approve the revised agenda as submitted, seconded by Mr. Holt and the motion
was unanimously carried 7-0.
APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 20, 2013
Mr. Shomo moved to approve the Planning Commission minutes of May 20, 2013, seconded by Ms.
Still and the motion was unanimously carried 7-0.
COMMUNICATIONS & REPORTS
Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that the next Planning Commission meeting will be held on Monday,
July 15, 2013 at 7:00PM in the City Hall Council Chambers.
Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that on June 26, 2013 there is an educational opportunity in the “2013
Planning Law Review” Webcast. It will be hosted at the Kent Administration Building. This is one
of the series of webcasts that the American Planning Association Delaware Chapter and in this case,
the Kent County Planning Office are co-sponsoring. The Webcast is free and if the Commission
Members would like to receive more information on it, contact Planning Staff.
Mrs. Melson-Williams provided an update on the regular City Council and Utility Committee
meetings held on May 28, 2013 and June 10, 2013.
OPENING REMARKS CONCERNING DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS
Mrs. Melson-Williams presented the audience information on policies and procedures for the
meeting.
OLD BUSINESS
1) Requests for Extensions of Planning Commission Approval: None
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NEW BUSINESS
NEW DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION
1) MI-13-10 Nottingham Meadows: Revised Active Recreation Area – Public Hearing and Review of
revisions to the Active Recreation Area for the Nottingham Meadows Subdivision. The Revised
Active Recreation Area is to eliminate the proposed pool and clubhouse and then provide cash in-lieu
payment for the Active Recreation Area. The plan also includes a Parcel Consolidation & Lot Line
Adjustment Plan to expunge 105 lots and reconfigure 11 lots. The property is zoned R-8 (One Family
Residence Zone) and a portion is subject to SWPOZ (Source Water Protection Overlay Zone) Tier 3 –
Excellent Recharge Area. The subdivision is located on the south side of Hazlettville Road and west
of Wyoming Mill Road. The owner of record is Siobain-VI, LLC. Address: Nottingham Subdivision.
Council District 2.
Representatives: Mr. Mike Riemann, Becker Morgan Group; Mr. John Canuso, Tradition Homes
Ms. Cornwell stated that this application is for a revision to the Active Recreation Area for the
Nottingham Meadows Subdivision. Planning Staff notes that there is a Parcel Consolidation Plan and
a Lot Line Adjustment Plan that are being reviewed administratively by Staff and they do not require
any Commission approval. The comments for this application have been combined into one report but
the only thing Planning Commission needs to review and approve tonight are the revisions to the
Active Recreation Area. Based on their Administrative Plan for a Parcel Consolidation, they are
proposing to have one hundred eight (108) residential lots which will require 29,700 SF of Active
Recreation Area on the site. That is 275 SF per dwelling lot. Based on their application, they are
proposing to do cash in-lieu instead of the Active Recreation Area. The original approved subdivision
included a clubhouse and swimming pool to be located near Brittingham Drive and Wellington
Avenue. What they are proposing to do is leave a little over 12,000 SF of a passive open space and
instead of the clubhouse and swimming pool, do the cash in-lieu payment. Their argument is that they
are in a close proximity to Schutte Park that provides recreation for the area.
Ms. Cornwell further stated that Staff has made multiple recommendations regarding the application.
One recommendation is that if they do get this application approved that they provide the rest of the
sidewalk along Hazlettville Road to provide the pedestrian access. Staff also notes that the Parks,
Recreation and Community Enhancement Committee of the Council reviewed and made a
recommendation of approval of the cash in-lieu option at their June 10, 2013 meeting. In the DAC
packet, there was a copy of the Parks, Recreation and Community Enhancement Staff Report that also
made a series of recommendations. One of which was if the cash in-lieu payment is approved, that it
is based on an appraisal that the applicant will need to provide to the City so that the calculation can be
done for the amount of cash in-lieu that will be accepted, as well as the sidewalk connection. There
were a number of other agencies that did provide comments. For example, the Public Works
Department, DelDOT, the Kent Conservation District and the Planning Office.
Mr. Riemann stated that Nottingham Meadows was recorded in 2006 as a two hundred eleven (211) lot
single family development. The original project has about 59,000 SF or active open space which was
required based on the two hundred eleven (211) lots at that time. In that active open space was a
clubhouse and pool amenity. Since then, there has been one of the worst housing crashes in recent
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history. The project currently sits today with about half of the project developed in terms of land area
and about sixty eight (68) lots that have actually been developed in the front half of the development.
Since that time, the property has been foreclosed on and the bank does own this development. Mr.
Canuso is the contract purchaser looking to move the development forward and what they are
presenting tonight is a plan to continue to move this project forward and get it finished. As Ms.
Cornwell stated, their proposal is to now provide for a cash in-lieu for the active open space based on
what is now the required active open space based on one hundred eight (108) lots. The total
subdivision will go from two hundred eleven (211) to one hundred eight (108) lots because the rear
portion of the project is going to be expunged. All of the lots will be consolidated and sold to a farmer
and it will go back to agricultural land. There is already a farmer lined up to take that portion of the
property forward. The project would still include the portion of Wellington Avenue. That road
would be completed as part of this project which would help complete the front half of the
development. Essentially, everything from half of the development towards Hazlettville Road would
be finished and everything from the half of the development back, would go back to an agricultural
preservation. The purpose for the modification to the active open space is simple. The development at
one hundred eight (108) lots does not work with a clubhouse and pool in the development. The
financial numbers do not work for that particular instance and makes this project a viable project to
move forward. The active open space that will be required based on one hundred eight (108) lots is
29,700SF. The cash in-lieu calculation would be done in accordance with the City of Dover Code and
there are very detailed criteria, which they would follow. They do agree to finish the sidewalk along
Hazlettville Road. As everyone is aware, the new Wyoming Mill Road re-alignment is now finished.
As part of that project there are actually pedestrian crosswalks and lights and there is some sidewalk
there but it does not connect to the sidewalk at the entrance to Nottingham Meadows. This is
something that the applicant would finish and they think that this is a reasonable request given the fact
that their cash in-lieu payment would go to Parks and Recreation. Given the proximity of Schutte
Park, they think that makes sense so they agree with that Staff recommendation.
Mr. Riemann further stated that the developer has met with a number of property owners in the
development. They have also received a Petition which was signed by twenty eight (28) property
owners within the development. So they have had a meeting with some of the property owners to
explain the project to them and get their support. In addition to the property owners in the petition,
they have also met with the property owner that is directly adjacent to the active recreation space,
which he is present this evening and will more than likely speak. The design that Ms. Cornwell was
referencing, which has a small amount of passive open space about 12,000 SF between this particular
property owner’s lot and the two (2) new lots that are in the new open space, were at the request of this
property owner who wanted to see a passive buffer between his lot and the new adjacent lots within the
active open space. As Ms. Cornwell mentioned, they did receive a positive recommendation from the
Parks, Recreation and Community Enhancement Committee at the last hearing. So in summary, these
changes are really a path forward for this project. It allows the project to be finished to a more
complete subdivision, allows the project to be turned over to the Homeowners Association as opposed
to sitting the way that it is today. There really is no Homeowners Association that is legally defined
for the subdivision so that allows this process to happen. It allows the remaining lots in the
development to be completed which is obviously important for the community.
Colonel Welsh questioned the area to the south that will be returned to farmland for agricultural use,
will that land be leased to a farmer or a sale of property? Responding to Colonel Welsh, Mr. Riemann
stated that it would be a sale of property.
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Colonel Welsh questioned if Mr. Riemann and the developer were in agreement with the DAC
comments and the stipulations set forth in the petition? Responding to Colonel Welsh, Mr. Riemann
stated yes.
Mr. Tolbert questioned if the lots shown on the diagram of the subdivision with dots were properties
that have houses built on them but have not been sold? Responding to Mr. Tolbert, Mr. Riemann
stated no, those lots have houses on them and have all been sold.
Mr. Holt questioned if the Homeowners Association could be formed after this application was
approved? Responding to Mr. Holt, Mr. Riemann stated yes, this process will allow that to happen and
the HOA exists but has not been turned over to the residents.
Mr. Tolbert questioned if they have talked to the homeowners about the Homeowners Association and
are they willing to the accept responsibility? Responding to Mr. Tolbert, Mr. Canuso stated that the
underlying documents that form the Homeowners Association are recorded on each of the properties.
One of the things they mentioned when meeting with some of the residents from the neighborhood was
that they are trying to make it so that the cost to maintain the property and to run the association would
be as minimal as possible. Putting a clubhouse and a swimming pool there would make it ridiculously
expensive for these one hundred eight (108) homeowners to maintain. As of now, what they are
proposing is a landscape maintenance fee to maintain the entrance way and the remaining small
passive recreation area. He does not have figures but it would be a minimal expense on a monthly or
yearly basis.
Dr. Jones stated that there were thirty (30) out of sixty eight (68) responses. She questioned what
attempts have been made to contact all owners in the development? Responding to Dr. Jones, Mr.
Cansuo stated that they reached out to a couple of the residents. Mrs. Townshend had given them
names of a couple of the residents. They had a preliminary meeting at the site and kind of tasked them
to reach out to the community. These residents did hold a meeting with the community to talk about
the plan that was being proposed. He has received one email from a resident who was concerned and
who was still in favor of the clubhouse and the swimming pool. The main focus of the meeting with
the five residents that he met with was that they were adamant that they did not want this clubhouse or
swimming pool. The cost associated with maintaining that under Homeowners Association would be
thousands of dollars instead of a hundred dollars a year.
Dr. Jones further questioned if they did it discuss with the residents, the Homeowners Association?
Responding to Dr. Jones, Mr. Cansuo stated that he discussed it with five residents.
Dr. Jones further questioned if the cost of a Homeowners Association was discussed? Responding to
Dr. Jones, Mr. Cansuo stated no, generalized conversations about the cost of landscape maintenance
were discussed but only with five residents.
Ms. Still asked for clarification on the numbers for the Active Recreation Area of 29,700 SF and the
passive open space of 33,076 SF. Responding to Ms. Still, Mr. Riemann stated that the 29,700 SF is
based on the City’s requirement for one hundred eight (108) lots times 275 SF. That is the required
active open space which they would be proposing a cash in-lieu to supplement that requirement.
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Ms. Still questioned the additional 33,076 SF? Responding to Ms. Still, Mr. Riemann stated that it is
just passive open space that exists but they do not get any credit for that, it does not go towards any
requirement.
Mr. Ambruso questioned how many lots were already sold? Responding to Mr. Ambruso, Mr.
Riemann stated that there were sixty eight (68) occupied lots.
Mr. Ambruso stated that when these people who bought the sixty-eight (68) lots, they bought because
they were told that there would be this Active Recreation Area. So they had a reasonable expectation
of being confronted with expenses of maintain a clubhouse and pool. Responding to Mr. Ambruso,
Mr. Riemann stated that this was a fair assumption. The clubhouse and pool was part of the approved
plan so that is part of the subdivision. It was part of the subdivision when the residents purchased their
lots.
Mr. Ambruso questioned if Mr. Riemann thought the residents saw the clubhouse and pool as a plus
when purchasing their lots? Responding to Mr. Ambruso, Mr. Riemann stated the Commission would
hear from some residents who think it’s a plus and maybe some residents who think it’s not, which is
why we are here tonight for this public process to allow that discussion to occur because they do want
to make a change to that amenity that was part of the public plan.
Colonel Welsh opened a public hearing.
Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that there were two items received by email. One email is dated June 3,
2013 from the property owner at 228 Saxondale Lane, Venkat Subramaniyam. In the email, it states
that the person is strongly opposed to the conversion and reduction of the open space that is currently
proposed. They wanted their opposition to be recorded as part of this discussion. They note that with
growing cities, open spaces are a rarity and request the help to preserve all open spaces. The second
email is dated June 4, 2013 from a co-owner of the property at 228 Saxondale Lane, Akila
Venkataraman. This person again believes that this open space is for the use and enjoyment of all the
residents of the community and is somewhat disturbed about the change in plans that are proposed.
They note that they are in opposition to any change to the open space requirements in the subdivision.
Those two emails are entered for the record and a copy of the Petition that was received this evening
which includes signatures representing twenty eight (28) properties in the subdivision. The intro of
this document reads
To: The City of Dover Planning Commission
The undersigned, residents of the Nottingham Meadows Subdivision in the City of Dover, hereby
request, the Planning Commission approve the following:
1. Revise Active Recreation Area to eliminate the proposed pool and clubhouse and then
provide cash in-lieu payment for the Active Recreation Area; and
2. Reconfigure Lots 198-205, making the lots larger to eliminate the small open space area;
and
3. Add Lots 212 and 213 in the area where the Active Recreation Area was; and
4. Expunge 105 lots on the west side of the subdivision.
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Mrs. Belinda Baker – 437 Beuvale Ln Dover, DE 19904
Mrs. Baker stated that she is here tonight to see what is going on, she missed the first meeting but she
would like for this meeting and these attendees to understand that the first meeting with the five people
was not an announced meeting to the community. Those five people do not speak for Belinda Baker at
437 Beuvale Lane Dover, DE 19904. So whatever was discussed at that meeting that was not open to
the community, she is not in agreement with. A clubhouse and swimming pool was a selling feature
for that property when we purchased our home and with no notification until now did they come to the
understanding that the clubhouse and swimming pool are no longer an option. The petition was
something that could be signed but it was never really discussed what it was that they were signing.
She is only here to speak for herself and she would like this Committee to understand that when they
say there was a meeting to discuss the proposed changes, it was not held with the community. She
does not know how those five (5) selected people were picked, the meeting was at someone’s home
and those select few were the only people present at that meeting. Evidentially, whatever comments
were made at that meeting were accepted as comments as speaking for the whole community but it
was not.
Colonel Welsh questioned if Mrs. Baker was still in favor of the clubhouse and swimming pool?
Responding to Colonel Welsh, Mrs. Baker stated that she was not sure because she has not really heard
enough information. She is here tonight because she wants to know exactly what it is that the
developer is proposing. The clubhouse and swimming pool were a selling feature for her and this
maintenance for the little bit of grass that they have, she feels the community can come together and
cut that. So as of this hour, yes, she is in favor of the clubhouse and swimming pool.
Mr. Peter Thompson – 22 Brittingham Drive Dover, DE 19904
Mr. Thompson stated that of the five (5) people at the meeting, he was one of them. It was not
anything more than to hear what the builder was going to propose to the City in order to make the
changes to the subdivision. It was nothing official; these five people have no say for the entire
community. The reason the five (5) of us were present at the meeting is because they have been
working with the homeowners group since day one. They developed the mailing list and a
communication link. They called a meeting for May 22, 2013 and they placed a sign at the entrance of
the community. The mailing list is composed of sixty two (62) addresses, everybody on that list
received notification. About half of that mailing list or residents showed up at the meeting that was
held at Wyoming Methodist Church. At the meeting, they talked about what the developer was
proposing, they did not take pro or con. They put some things out about what might happen and the
petition was talked about so that the people who were in favor of the changes could sign as supporting
the change. Not everybody signed at the meeting; some people are against the proposed changes.
Their property is right next to the proposed area. When they moved there, they could care less whether
there was a clubhouse and swimming pool or not. That was not their motivation for moving here but it
was definitely a plus. But it was a big plus back in the 1970’s and 1980’s when swimming pools were
the big thing to do. Kent Swim Club cannot keep their doors open; Maple Dale and Wild Quail are
offering swim memberships. So he thinks that the interest is waning. He thinks that they could do
something to permit above ground pools on properties which would be a different issue. But the game
has changed because of the change in ownership of the property. They have decreased to one hundred
eight (108) lots, which will be tremendously hard on that amount of property owners to maintain a
clubhouse and pool. He urges the Commission to approve this change. Nothing was done under
handed. The five people at the meeting have no say for the community; they have taken the initiative
to organize the mailing list just as a communication link.
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Colonel Welsh questioned that as he understands, the meeting that occurred was not to enter into any
agreement or to make any commitment? Responding to Colonel Welsh, Mr. Thompson stated
absolutely not. The first time he saw the developer was at this meeting. He told them what his plans
were and they mentioned things that could possibly be changed. The developer stated that is was
willing to talk with the residents after the deal is consummated. So he thinks there is an agreement on
both parts. He is not going to come in, wave a wand and say here is a magic trick for you. He has the
interest of the residents of the community.
Mrs. Kara Okonewski – 424 Beuvale Ln Dover, DE 19904
Mrs. Okonewski stated that she wanted to commend Becker Morgan Group for sending out the notices
through certified mail to all of the residents so that they were able to attend. They have had meetings
in the past and the attendance has been less than desirable. Less than usually half of the community
does come to the meetings. To talk to only 7% of the community does not give a fair perspective.
That 7% of the community does not accurately represent the community. Those who do not care one
way or the other do not relate to her or several of her neighbors. She has children; she has those
summer time needs where “Mommy needs a pool because she needs a break time.” They purchased
their home knowing that they would be paying a premium price in the City of Dover to not only have
one of the most beautiful neighborhoods but also to have those amenities available for us to use, at a
purchase price, with a yearly fee, understanding that they were going to be paying around $300-$400 a
year for the maintenance of the swimming pool. They have never once as a community been presented
with a number as to what it would cost to mow the lawn or what it would cost to maintain the pool.
Only once when she sees a number, can she say that she is for or against no longer having the
clubhouse and swimming pool. Also the 4 or 5 residents who attended the first meeting are self-
appointed. They have not spoken with anyone in the community; they have not come to the
community and asked if they could fairly represent the community. It is so important that we not only
represent the young, the old, the tall, the new, with children, without children. It needs to be all people
in the neighborhood because it is not a one type neighborhood. It is very much a collection of people
and very wonderful people but they are all very different in their needs and what their financial
situations are and what their needs are for the community as well. She will not object to pulling out
the clubhouse and swimming pool but there must be amendments made to the Homeowners
Association. It currently does not allow a bird bath or a small kiddie pool for her child to play in,
which is ridiculous in her opinion. If something is going to be taken from them, then something also
needs to be given. When the meeting was held with thirty (30) out of the sixty eight (68) homeowners,
that Petition was in no way stated to them that it would be used as an official petition presented at this
meeting tonight. They were misled and she needs to make sure that this is noted tonight. They were
asked “Do we need a pool?” and told to sign the Petition if their answer was no. The meeting that took
place was a disgrace. It was shameful to be at the meeting and it got out of hand very quickly. If no
changes are going to be made to the Homeowners Association, if she cannot have a bird bath or kiddy
pool for her child to sit it then she is not in favor of doing away with the clubhouse and swimming
pool. She also does not want a farm, she wants all two hundred eleven (211) lots filled She wants
every house along with the pool and the clubhouse because that is why she purchased and spent
several hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Mrs. Della Hopkins – 113 Derbyshire Ave Dover, DE 19904
Mrs. Hopkins stated the fact that when her and her husband purchased their home, they knew that this
would be a great neighborhood due to the fact of riding through other neighborhoods. When they
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purchased their property, it was indicated to them that there would be a Homeowners Association but
after all of the homes were built and the development was completed. To this day, the development
has not been completed. She understands that there was a home market crash but the neighborhood
has gone this far without a Homeowner’s Association and without any communication of saying when
or how it would take place. The community did have several meetings where a lot of the homeowners
attended and expressed what they felt. They did have a committee that took time to meet with the new
developer but she feels that they did not speak on their behalf. Also in the last meeting referencing all
of these changes in regards to the clubhouse and swimming pool, there were a lot of questions that
were not answered and they were not satisfied with that. Yes, the meeting did get out of control due to
the fact of not enough information. But it was said to the community, that the meeting was just to see
whether or not the clubhouse and swimming pool were wanted by homeowners. Again, they never
knew that the Petition was going to get to this state. They just signed it and now here they are. There
were a lot of people who were not present at the meeting who would normally attend community
meetings who asked neighbors to get the information for them. There were also people who did not
attend because they live in other states and come to their homes in Delaware on weekends and then go
back home. So therefore, they were not able to participate and give their opinions. She feels that even
if it is one hundred eight (108) lots, let’s wait until the whole development is completed and then
organize the Homeowners Association. She lives on the back row where the road comes through and
there was a great deal promised to them. She had to fight to get the row of trees along the back of her
property until they were planted. She appreciates Mr. Steven Cohen taking the time to do this and
giving his word to her to get this project done. But there are so many things that were said in the last
meeting held that they felt a little misled. They also felt that if anything that was said or anything that
should have been conveyed to the community should have been said by the owner who plans to take
over the development. The developer should have presented himself to the community so that they
know who they are dealing with. There were just so many questions that the five (5) people who
attended the meeting with the developer could not answer. So the community left the meeting with
nothing but questions. She feels that since there has not been a clubhouse or swimming pool for this
long, why do they need it now? There are other people who have installed pools. They have above
ground pools and in-ground pools as well. She also feels that if this change is going to be made, then
do it right; complete everything, let the community come up with something that can suffice
everyone’s needs. She believes that with everyone coming together as one, they will all understand
where each other are. She could not understand how those five (5) people present at the meeting with
the developers knew what the community as a whole would want. Let everyone address their needs.
Mrs. Loretta Peer – 308 Gillibrook Ln Dover, DE 19904
Mrs. Peer stated that when they purchased their home, the clubhouse and the swimming pool were a
selling point and the Homeowners Association was going to be based on two hundred eleven (211)
homes, not on one hundred eight (108) homes. As of now, she has waited so long that she does not
need the pool anymore. She needed the pool when she first purchased the home. Technically, as the
original builder went bankrupt, they do not have a Homeowners Association in place. If the new
owner would present them with some guides for a Homeowners Association, then maybe someone
would be interested in going along with their plan. As for the five (5) men who have kept this group
together, they are all volunteers. They would go around and speak with everyone in the community.
They got the meeting rooms together where meetings could be held for the community to attend. At
the very first meeting that was held, committees were setup and their committee was for being the
liaison between the City of Dover and the community. She applauds the volunteers because they have
stuck their necks out and they have tried to help the community.
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Mrs. Della Hopkins – 113 Derbyshire Ave Dover, DE 19904
Mrs. Hopkins further stated that it was mentioned that there was common area that needed to be
maintained. She believes that it is located at the entrance of Nottingham Meadows, which they have
volunteers who take care of the plants, the mulch and grass. She believes that at one of the meetings
held by the community, they had paid that person who takes care of that. But what other common
ground would there be? Everyone takes care of their own property. Outside of the pond, she believes
that at one time they had volunteers who cleaned that area up. Responding to Mrs. Hopkins, Mr.
Riemann stated that the passive open space that would be maintained is the pond area. So the mowing
of the pond and also the long term maintenance that goes along with that as well because over time
those ponds require a certain level of maintenance other than just mowing. Also, the area that runs
along Wyoming Mill Road and then all the way up Hazlettville Road is open space area.
Mrs. Hopkins further stated that this was a very small portion of land to maintain. She questioned if
this would be the only other area outside of coming in to the development? Responding to Mrs.
Hopkins, Mr. Riemann stated yes, that was correct. That would be the area that would be required to
be maintained. If the clubhouse and the swimming pool were built, then there would be a lot more
maintenance.
Mrs. Hopkins questioned the comment that Mr. Riemann made about extended care for it outside of
just mowing? What would this maintenance cost? If Homeowners Association fees are going to be
collected from the community to maintain the common area at the entrance of the development and
then the pond, what other maintenance costs will be involved to take care of all of this? Responding to
Mrs. Hopkins, Mr. Canuso stated that he thinks there is a little confusion regarding the Homeowners
Association. The Homeowners Association was originally setup by the original builder, Stover Homes
LLC. It was or should have been part of the homeowner’s agreement of sale. They should have a
copy of the Homeowners Association documents. The Homeowners Association has been recorded,
therefore is a lien on the homeowner’s properties. What they are proposing to do is to essentially
activate it and put it in the hands of the homeowners so that the residents can amend it to allow pools
or bird baths on their properties. He does not want to make these decisions for the residents of the
neighborhood. The Homeowners Association is already established; it is already recorded against the
residents’ properties. The By-laws which stipulate everything within the development are already
recorded.
Mr. David Okonewski – 424 Beuvale Ln Dover, DE 19904
Mr. Okonewski stated that they currently have what he would say, major still water in the pond. As
part of the new plan, there was some whisperings that there may be some rehabilitation of that
stormwater pond, to bring it up to the standard Delaware storm pond code. Is this part of this
Comprehensive Plan or not? Responding to Mr. Okonewski, Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that
what they are seeking tonight is in regards to the Active Recreation Plan. If there are issues with
the stormwater management pond, the Kent Conservation District has an inspection program related
to ponds. However, it is the responsibility of the designated group to perform whatever necessary
maintenance that may be needed for the pond. In this case, it would be the developer entity until
those common open space areas are turned over to different organization, such as a Homeowners
Association. The Homeowners Association documents do indicate that the pond and its
maintenance needs such as grass mowing, cleaning or repair of the pond would ultimately be the
responsibility of the Homeowners Association in the future.
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Colonel Welsh stated that the Commission is here to act on the cash in-lieu payment for Active
Recreation Area. They are not here to hear about the creation or the activation of the Homeowners
Association. That is something that the residents need to work out with the builder. He wants to
keep the focus on the Active Recreation Area and whether or not to accept payment in-lieu of it.
Colonel Welsh closed the public hearing.
Mr. Ambruso questioned that if the Commission members recognize the cash in-lieu payment and
the homeowners decide that they do not want the payment in-lieu, will they still have an avenue to
pursue? Responding to Mr. Ambruso, Colonel Welsh stated that if the Commission members
approve the cash in-lieu payment tonight then it will be a done deal. The payment will be in-lieu of
the Active Recreation Area, be it a clubhouse and pool or be it an exercise area or park. Once the
Commission members make their determination tonight, it will be done.
Mrs. Melson-Williams stated that what the Planning Commission is considering tonight is what the
Active Recreation Area should consist of within this subdivision. Originally, the Active Recreation
was approved as a pool and clubhouse. The applicant is here tonight asking that the Active
Recreation Area be satisfied by a cash in-lieu payment; a payment in-lieu of constructing an Active
Recreation Area in that subdivision.
Mr. Ambruso stated that he thinks the situation is a little sad because they are dealing with a moral
issue to some extent when it comes to the homeowners. But on the other hand, here is a developer
who has picked up on a project that was not really doing anyone any good. They feel that we do not
want to run off people who want to invest in the community. Often times people do not realize that
they the Planning Commission is charged with the responsibility of voting in the affirmative on
matters that fall within the bounds of what is legal. It is really sad that the residents did not get their
homeowners rules and regulations started before this issue came up.
Dr. Jones stated that it appears to her, even with the issues that they are to consider tonight,
communication has been less than desirable. Maybe not enough information was given to the
residents. She is uncomfortable with the fact that information and communication does not satisfy
those individuals who have signed the Petition. She would like to see some more conversation. She
suggests that maybe a facts sheet would be helpful so that the residents cannot or will not say they
did not understand something.
Mr. Holt stated that swimming pools are very expensive to maintain, especially large pools. There
are a lot of laws that come with pools, such as having to be fenced or having lifeguards. The
Homeowners Association would incur tremendous expenses if the swimming pool was constructed.
He can certainly see how they could save money by not having a pool. Pools are expensive to
maintain and they are only used for one third of the year, depending on the weather.
Mr. Tolbert stated that there has been an obvious lack of information and the homeowners are being
asked to make a decision but they do not have the information necessary to make the decisions
regarding the clubhouse and pool as well as the costs to maintain these amenities. They need that
information to make an intelligent decision and he has not heard it tonight.
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Mr. Shomo stated that everything that has been said, he agrees with. The residents have to have the
facts in order to make a decision. He knows that it is a difficult situation with the new developer
taking over at the bankruptcy.
Mr. Canuso stated that he would like to apologize for the lack of communication. They got
involved with M&T Bank a while ago; they have been negotiating with them for a long time to try
purchasing the property. Like everyone has said, Nottingham Meadows is a beautiful community
and it is a shame that it has gone the way it has. It has been a long process to get this property under
contract; they have had a lot of meetings with Mrs. Townshend that go back about eighteen (18)
months. He was the builder that came in to finish the four (4) houses that were partially
constructed in this community so they have been involved since that time with trying to purchase
the property. In negotiating with the bank, it had become evident that they was no market for a two
hundred eleven (211) lot subdivision even though there were sixty eight (68) homes completed. It
would have been financially unfeasible to try and develop a property that large. When they finally
came to terms with M&T Bank, they gave him exactly forty-five (45) days to make a decision
which ends on June 30, 2013. This is not something that is on the table; build the clubhouse or not
build the clubhouse. This is a question of whether they move forward or not move forward.
Mr. Canuso further stated that the property right now still has a lot of approvals still needed. They
will have to get Kent Conservation District approval and the City of Dover Public Works
Department approval. This is obviously the biggest decision that has to be made on this project for
them to move forward with it. But there are certain changes coming within the stormwater
management regulations within the State of Delaware and they will probably take effect January 1,
2014. Once this happens, this project will become unbuildable under the current plan. He is
throwing this information on the table, saying that if this application does not get approved and
move forward tonight then he is not sure it will.
Mr. Canuso stated that there are ten (10) lots in the middle of the community that are not built and
who knows what will happen to them at the end of the day. When they first got under contract, the
first thing they did was contact Mrs. Townshend. She suggested that they speak with Mr. Jim
Murray, who was one of the owners in this community who was actively involved in trying to get
the community together, meet with the people and get the mailing list ready. They thought that is
was a great idea. Normally, the developer would come before the Planning Commission first and
the notices for the community would go out. They thought they would meet with Mr. Murray to go
over their idea. They did not go to these five (5) people of the community for recommendations;
they conveyed their plan to these five (5) people for feedback. He stated that within thirty (30) days
to get a community together to communicate their plans for the development and then present to the
Planning Commission would be impossible.
Mr. Canuso further stated that he remembers meeting with Mrs. Townshend and Mrs. Melson-
Williams and discussing a timetable for them to get in front of the Commission; they had one week
to make it happen. The reason that they are on such a time constraint is because they have such a
limited window with M&T Bank in order to purchase the property. They also just purchased
another property from M&T Bank outside of the City, the Stoneridge community. This community
was mostly built; there were five (5) lots that were left empty and there was a partially completed
house and also a partially completed clubhouse. They made connections with some of the
homeowners from this subdivision, told them their plans and ended getting approval to tear down
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that partially completed clubhouse. That was with a community that had ninety (90) lots with only
five (5) lots left to build on. The residents were looking at an estimated $1,000 per unit to maintain
a swimming pool on a yearly basis. He understands that it may be what the residents bought into
but it is just not feasible to do that at this point.
Dr. Jones questioned if the process had been completed for the purchase of Stoneridge?
Responding to Dr. Jones, Mr. Canuso stated yes.
Dr. Jones further questioned since he has an established relationship with the bank, would the bank
allow a time extension? Responding to Dr. Jones, Mr. Canuso stated that they have been
negotiating so long with M&T Bank that they want the feasibility period to end on June 30, 2013
and for them to close on the property by July 15, 2013, which they are ready, willing and able to do.
Colonel Welsh stated that he was not aware of the limited timeframe with the bank. He too was
very concerned about the lack of communication. He thinks there needs to be some improvement.
He also thinks the Homeowners Association, whether active or not, needs to appoint someone as the
Chairman or President of that organization so that they can hold meetings that do not get out of
control. The clubhouse and the swimming pool were the reasons some of the residents bought in
this community when there were supposed to be two hundred eleven (211) lots. The cost to the
residents on an annual basis would have been much less then it will be now with one hundred eight
(108) lots. In lieu of the fact that the developer is willing to complete the project, all be it smaller
than it was, he certainly commends them for that. He thinks as homeowners, the residents should
be very thankful as the project is floundering and under bank ownership. Again, he is concerned
about the communication. He thinks these residents deserve to know what something may cost.
Although the clubhouse and swimming pool were off of the table, the residents were concerned
about the cost would be to maintain the development. He feels that the developer could have come
up with a ballpark figure for the residents. As far as common areas and passive recreation areas, it
is common for the Homeowners Association to pay the fees to maintain the entrance and those
common areas. He thinks those fees will be relatively small. As a Homeowners Association, if
they choose to take it upon themselves to maintain these areas and it can be done successfully, he
sees no reason not to do so. He thinks the alternatives are not there; he thinks they need to move
forward.
Mr. Tolbert moved to approve MI-13-10 Nottingham Meadows: Revised Active Recreation Area for
a cash in-lieu of payment along with the DAC Comments, seconded by Mr. Holt and the motion was
unanimously carried 7-0 with Mr. Holden and Mr. Baldwin absent.
Meeting adjourned at 8:24 PM
Sincerely,
Kristen Mullaney
Secretary
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