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Bicycle Pedestrian Sub‐Committee
Dover City Hall Large Conference Room
Dover, DE
October 1, 2019
Approved – Nov. 5, 2019
Members Present: Others Present:
Chris Asay, Jayce Lesniewski, Dave Moses, Durk Lee, Carolyn Courtney, John Fiori, Kirby Hudson,
Tricia Arndt, Pete DiMarie Andy Jakubowitch, Councilman Ralph Taylor,
Helen Wiles
INTRODUCTIONS
CALLED TO ORDER: Meeting opened at 5:00 P.M.
A discussion took place on the meeting schedule and future schedule for 2020. Mr. Asay asked the city to confirm we could meet on
Nov. 5, Dec. 3, 2019 and Jan. 7, 2020. With discussion Mr. Moses motioned to recommend a 2020 meeting schedule be presented to
Committee and Council for staff to be assigned dates for 2020 meetings. The Bicycle and Pedestrian Subcommittee requests the
assistance of City of Dover staff in approving and setting the dates all 11 of our monthly meetings (leaving out July) at the January 2020
meeting. We do this to avoid last‐minute postponements, rescheduling and cancelling of our meetings. Mr. Lesniewski cautioned we
should ask Ms. Courtney about reviewing the dates and putting this together. Mrs. Arndt stated the “First Tuesday of the Month” was
acceptable. Mr. Moses did not feel this was sufficient. Mr. Asay noted it was not and did not do enough to ensure they could meet
monthly (with the exception of July). Mr. Lee seconded the motion which passed with 5 votes yes and 1 obtaining. Ms. Courtney will
prepare the motion for inclusion on a future Safety Transportation and Advisory meeting. (Mrs. Arndt abstained as this was her first
meeting.)
AGENDA
Mr. Asay stated he was switching the agenda items and we would hear the Old Business Items first. He also removed Election of a
Chair from the agenda without discussion. With these changes the agenda was accepted.
MINUTES
The Chair opened the floor to accept the August minutes. Mr. Moses motioned to accept, with Mr. Lesniewski as a second. The
motion passed with 5 yes and 1 abstaining. (Mrs. Arndt abstained as she had not read over the minutes).
NEW BUSINESS
SENATOR BIKEWAY SIGNAGE & MARKINGS
Mr. Asay and Mr. Moses reviewed their Proposal for Pavement‐marking and Signage for the Senator Bikeway, Particularly on Phase 1.
Mr. Moses stated really the change paint color not costing anything, markings being very minimal, blade signs being very minimal, 4
way stops being very minimal probably to the tune of less than 1% maybe less than 1/10 of 1% that we saved by not taking the bike
path down Delaware Avenue and not making the bike path on Central Middle property going down to Silver Lake. Imagine the amount
of money we save there making this change, it does make the new proposal less safe than the old proposal but with this minimal
amount of money to we could bring the safety. Ms. Courtney asked if he proposed the city pay for these changes? Mr. Asay noted we
propose the state cover their actions and the city cover their actions on city streets. The city is in charge of installing changing stop
signs on city streets so that is why that proposal is for the city and the same with the street blade signs. The other parts are parts that
are basically changes what do DelDOT has taken on as their responsibility. Mr. Fiori stated these are city streets. Mr. Asay said yes.
Mr. Fiori noted city council approved the plan. Mr. Asay felt city council never had the opportunity to examine the details of the
design. Mr. Fiori noted that was incorrect City Council was provided the details. Mr. Asay said no the details were never presented to
a public workshop. Ms. Courtney agreed with Mr. Fiori. Mr. Asay said we saw a concept not a design plan and the design plan was not
shown to us or city council, what signs would be included what color paint, those kinds of details is what we care commenting on. Mr.
Fiori disagreed. Mr. Moses felt Mr. Asay was correct in that we saw concept boards and we did agree it was better idea to go down
Cecil Street but it was not brought as a design plan.
(After review of the video recording these minutes were verified for the statements above. Mr. Asay and Mr. Moses are referring to the
original SBW plan that entered Silver Lake Park connecting to the existing trail system. However, due to wetland issues in Silver Lake
Park the SBW was altered. They feel these changes reduced project expenses.)
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Councilman Taylor noted the contracts were signed based on the presentation to city council. Mr. Fiori yes. Mr. Asay noted you can
look at record that the concept was discussed and approved but the planning details were never presented. He feels the design was
not presented because it was not part of Phase 1. Mr. Galvin noted we have a confusion of terms. Signage for the street signs, DelDOT
relies on the MUTCD to implement projects and to put required symbols on streets. They are going by what is in the MUTC guidance to
make the markings. Mr. Asay said yes, I am being sloppy on the terminology. The route going in a certain way and the actual plan of
how it will be built and what will be included and what wont. Mr. Moses noted all these suggestions go back to safety. He used
Delaware Avenue as an example becoming a 4 way stop due to traffic flow. I feel these intersections changing to four way stops just
makes sense like the Delaware Avenue idea.
Mr. Asay called for a resolution in support of the proposal as written, Mr. Moses moved, Mr. Lee seconded the motion. Councilman
Taylor asked for discussion. Mr. Asay said we had discussion. Councilman noted after the motion is properly presented and seconded,
we then have discussion. Please understand there are contracts, they have to be amended and rewritten. He asked Mr. Fiori where
we were in the process? Mr. Fiori noted contracts are signed. No stripping has done and the delineators have not been installed yet.
Mr. Taylor noted Mrs. Mitchell is a stickler for details. With contracts being signed she may not want to go on those. Mr. Moses noted
we have been trying for the last several months to get this passed. This is of little or no cost to the city and we felt this needs to be
presented. Mr. Fiori to make it clear, this cannot come this committee to DelDOT. DelDOT will not make any changes unless City
Council directs the City Manager to negotiate contract revisions. The motion passed with 5 yes and 1 abstain. Mrs. Arndt felt she
needed more information, to walk and bike the route prior to making any recommendation.
OLD BUSINESS
BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN UPDATE
Mr. Asay noted the public workshop had been scheduled for Monday, Oct. 21 from 5 – 7 pm at the Dover Public Library. Mrs. Wiles
passed around flyers advertising the workshop and asked everyone to share the information. The more people who show up, the more
input we have, the better the plan will be.
PEDESTRIAN ISSUES
Mr. Lesniewski had a question about the Capital Station development. The curb ramps are in but the stripping of the crosswalk has not
been done. Mr. Fiori noted their comments at DelDOT were for the developer to put in the crosswalks. Initial installation is the
developer. Mr. Lesniewski noted the curb cuts/ramps are there just no crosswalk markings. It was determined it the developer
responsibility if it is on the plan. Mr. Galvin noted is should have been required. Mr. Fiori noted he would go back and check on this.
CONSTRUCTION PROJECT
Mr. Fiori added US13 the sidewalk is in, finishing minor details and will be used a lot this weekend with the race in town. The Senator
Bikeway is moving forward.
Mr. Asay asked about the RT10 trail outside of city limits. Mr. Fiori I think it is starting construction sometime next year.
SILVER LAKE DAY
Mr. Asay asked Ms. Courtney to report at next meeting due to time.
MEMBERSHIP
Mr. Asay noted we are working on attracting a final member to the committee.
Announcements
Ms. Courtney noted the MS Bike to the Bay group is looking for volunteers for the Dewey Beach leg of the event.
Mr. Fiori has been contacted by Hartly and North Dover elementary schools for Bike Rodeo during this school year. We will need
volunteers to help once these dates are set.
ADJOURNMENT
With no further business, the meeting adjourned at 6:03 pm.
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Prepared by: Chris Asay and Dave Moses
Proposal for Pavement-marking and Signage for the
Senator Bikeway, Particularly on Phase 1
Phase 1 of the Senator Bikeway, currently under construction, extends from Carver Road in the
west, to Silver Lake Park in the east, following Forest Street, West Division Street, North West
Street, Cecil Street, the alley east of North State Street, and Washington Street.
Concerning the pavement markings and signage along this route, we have two goals:
1. Safety for the bikeway users, many of whom will be children.
2. Clearly and prominently identifying the bikeway to potential users, and to automobile drivers.
This is to promote use and also provide safety for users.
This proposal includes recommendations for DelDOT actions, and for City of Dover actions.
DelDOT Actions
1. We approve of the installation of directional signage as proposed. These are the signposts
located at turns in the route that provide directional arrows and distances to selected
destinations.
2. We do not approve of the use of “sharrows” painted in white paint on the pavement along
the route, as these markings are already in use on roadways in Dover that are not
considered “low stress” bike routes. As an alternative, we suggest markings similar to those
used in striped bike lanes, but perhaps using green paint, rather than white paint.
3. We suggest the installation of green pavement markings at three intersections: Cecil Street
and Governors Ave, Cecil Street and North State Street, Hazel Road and the alley. Traffic is
heavy on Governor’s Ave and North State Street. The green paint is a visual warning to
automobiles that this is a special crossing area.
4. We also suggest painting green angle-arrows, marked “SB” at 4 turns in the route: W
Division and N West Streets, Cecil and N West Streets, Cecil Street and the alleyway, and
Washington Street and the alleyway. These would provide additional guidance for bicyclists.
City of Dover Actions
1. Change three intersections on Cecil Street from 2-way stop to 4-way stop: At North West
Street, Kirkwood Street, and Queen Street. (The intersection of Cecil and New Streets is
already a 4-way stop.) This will provide significant safety for bicyclists at these intersections,
by requiring cross traffic to come to a complete stop.
2. Provide signage ( <—Senator Bikeway—> ) atop street signs at all intersections along the
Senator Bikeway. This helps to make it clear that this route is a special bike route. (On this
phase, there are 16 intersections that would have this signage. Also 12 more heading west,
and 2 more heading east. 30 in total.)
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Senator Bikeway Proposal
Chris Asay and Dave Moses
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Courtney, Carolyn
From: Chris Asay <ChrisAsay@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:50 PM
To: Courtney, Carolyn
Subject: Re: E-copy of Sen Bikeway Marking Proposal
Carolyn:
Here are some examples of street signage similar to what we are proposing.
—Chris
On Aug 7, 2019, at 7:25 AM, Courtney, Carolyn <CCourtney@dover.de.us> wrote:
Thank you.
Carolyn
From: Chris Asay <ChrisAsay@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 6:32 PM
To: Courtney, Carolyn <CCourtney@dover.de.us>
Subject: E‐copy of Sen Bikeway Marking Proposal
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